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thebigt
January 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
can anyone tell me how serms particularly nolvadex effect hpta...do they actually raise test production?
MAD DOG
January 26th, 2008, 02:13 PM
can anyone tell me how serms particularly nolvadex effect hpta...do they actually raise test production?
By increasing luteinizing hormone that stimulates leydig's cells in the testes to produce more test,how much to keep gains in intact is in
question, as clomid works much better in this area.
thebigt
January 27th, 2008, 02:11 PM
By increasing luteinizing hormone that stimulates leydig's cells in the testes to produce more test,how much to keep gains in intact is in
question, as clomid works much better in this area.
please post link to studies.
thebigt
January 28th, 2008, 04:54 AM
anthony roberts says that nolva and clomid have almost the same action with nolva being better because a dose of 10mg will raise t-levels as much as 150%? i think i read that dinoii says only clomid has any effect on hpta. very few actual studies i can find that has any scientific evidence of either theory. serm's are very effective at gyno prevention, but are they useful as a test booster?
MAD DOG
January 28th, 2008, 11:14 AM
anthony roberts says that nolva and clomid have almost the same action with nolva being better because a dose of 10mg will raise t-levels as much as 150%? i think i read that dinoii says only clomid has any effect on hpta. very few actual studies i can find that has any scientific evidence of either theory. serm's are very effective at gyno prevention, but are they useful as a test booster?
They both have an effect on HPTA, but clomids actions are more test booster and nolva est blocker.
MAD DOG
January 29th, 2008, 02:26 AM
They both have effect on HPTA but clomids are more pronounced, and is better at test resore and test boosting. nolva of the 2 SERMS is best at
est blocking and pretty weak at test boosting.
usf97j4x4
January 29th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Ask anyone who's ran Clomid and Nolva (separately)
Clomid makes you feel more like you, quicker
bmoremade26
January 29th, 2008, 08:18 AM
Ask anyone who's ran Clomid and Nolva (separately)
Clomid makes you feel more like you, quicker
yes clomid is the only SERM actually proven at restoring ur test levels
thebigt
January 29th, 2008, 11:22 AM
so i guess adding 10mg of tamoxifen to activate ex is a waste then.
solomon1979
January 29th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Ask anyone who's ran Clomid and Nolva (separately)
Clomid makes you feel more like you, quicker
I seem to remember arguing this with our forum's newest marine. I also think he believed that Toremifene was a better choice than Clomid for restotring HPTA. Anyhow, Clomid is the only proven SERM and it does work substantially better than Toremifene in restoring HPTA from my personal experience. I can usually avoid the worst of its side effects by limiting its dosage to merely 50mg throughout the duration of PCT. Just sayin'........
MAD DOG
January 29th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Ask anyone who's ran Clomid and Nolva (separately)
Clomid makes you feel more like you, quicker
I have used both and w clomid u feel like u have not lost anything.
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