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LIFTBIG23
January 22nd, 2008, 03:32 PM
cycle - week 1-4 dbol
week 1-10 test c

pct - was going to run nolva during cycle to help get rid of water or when gyno appears, and clomid for pct, but some people are sayign nolva is better to run as pct, but since iam running i think it woul help with water on cycle i dont want it to be less potent

question - do you think it would be unnecasary to run nlova during cycle for water....does it even help at all), or could i just use some duirects (water pills, from like meijers) i was looking into arimidex or proviron but i cant find a cheap place and its expensive

LIFTBIG23
January 22nd, 2008, 03:32 PM
or just use some water pills on cycle and nolva/clomid pct, or if gyno shows nolva then pct just clomid

i guess my main question is does nolva help at all on cycle for water

LIFTBIG23
January 22nd, 2008, 06:43 PM
anyne have any advice

bmoremade26
January 22nd, 2008, 06:46 PM
well personally i dont see whats wrong with some water its not like its fat and its good for ur joints

LIFTBIG23
January 22nd, 2008, 07:28 PM
its called the ol lady knowing and like i still see my parents and ya know i do competitive sports and dont want them to be suspicious and want to test me (but tehy really dont pay much attention or care anyways) but its just the point

bmoremade26
January 22nd, 2008, 07:35 PM
well u could low dose the armidex thats all i would do but if u think running dbol with test they arent going to notice ur on anything ? dbol kicks in quicki dont think the water weight is going to alert them that ur on anything i say dont use it u need some estrogen u risk potentially taking some of ur gains but its up to u

usf97j4x4
January 22nd, 2008, 07:38 PM
well u could low dose the armidex thats all i would do but if u think running dbol with test they arent going to notice ur on anything ? dbol kicks in quicki dont think the water weight is going to alert them that ur on anything i say dont use it u need some estrogen u risk potentially taking some of ur gains but its up to u

dbol will blow you up fast and i mean FAST. There will be absolutely no question, if this is a real concern drop the dbol and let the test take over, its a bit more gradual.

LIFTBIG23
January 22nd, 2008, 07:42 PM
but would nolva help.... i hear arimidex is good, but expensive, check your PMs

GotTest
January 24th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Like USF said, Dbol will get you big quick. Why else are you taking Dbol if you don't want to get big? You're ON cycle bro, people will notice. ;)

usf97j4x4
January 24th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Yea, I mentioned gradual on the test cycle

But gradual on cycle does not = gradual natural

There is no way in hell you're going to convince anyone your not on roids. My wife will pick up on a cycle so damn fast just by slight changes in physique or even my eating /training habbits.

LIFTBIG23
January 24th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Shit, lol, alright but iam still going to buy arimidex and take 1 mg EOD or .5 ED to help with the bloat so maybe..... Just maybe it will be a little less noticable. Thanks for your help everyone but i got a cycle to run, Peace.