Bad to the Bone 2 - Methyl XT, SUS500, and Drive Log

[jw25558]

I thought I would do a sequel to my last EST log, which can be found here

My Phera Vol - Trenadrol/Methyl Vol - Trenaplex Bridged Cycle (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7646)

Before I get to the details of what I'll be using, I just want to say that I am not a doctor so that anything in this log that you use will be at your own risk. Posts are suggestions/opinions only. Consult your doctor before use of any supplement or before beginning any training routine. Always research PH sides and have supporting supplements and pct for them;)

Here's What I'll be Using as My Core Supplements
SUS500 by G.E.T. - Days 1-45 @ 2-3 caps ed
Methyl XT by EST - Days 8-38 @ 2-3 caps ed
Drive by Applied Nutriceuticals - 2 caps preworkout or 2 caps morning off day
Reset AD by Palo Alto Labs - 1 morning, 1 evening

Supporting Supps
Hawthorn Berry
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier and Regenerator
SAMe
Labrada's EFA Gold
Dermabolics EForm (if needed)

PCT
Hyperdrol X2 by Anabolic Xtreme
Retain 2 by Anabolic Xtreme
Test Drive by EST
EForm by Dermabolics

Preworkout
Drive by Aplied Nutriceuticals
No Xtreme by EST

Intraworkout
Size On by Gaspari Nutrition

Post Workout
Torrent by Universal Nutrition - 3 scoops
GF Pro Raspberry Lemonade - 1 scoop

I think that is all for the supplements:o

The Workout

I'm going to try Art Atwood's approach of changing my workout every 2-3 weeks. The workout listed is the one I'll start with and as the log progresses, I'll gradually phase into a workout similar to Lee Priest's 5 day split.

Day 1 - Chest, Midback, Traps, Tri's
Day 2 - Quads, Delts, Bis, Forearms
Day 3 - Upper Chest, Lats, Hams, Traps
Day 4 - Off
Abs will be done every other day in the morning
Workouts will be around 6:00PM

I'm currently using a Detox kit so it will be a few days before I get this cycle kicked off.

[Eyayo]

Gettin Gully eh? My boy is on sus500 and he likes it a lot. The only problem is his temper and attitude, both suck. Im subbed, good Luck bro.

[iankingsley]

Ever try xt, just curious was thinking off trying it myself

[CrackerDice]

Sounds good, subbed for sure.

[dalvare1]

awesome. I love crazy cycles.

Sus500 looks promising. Strong but good.

Ill be watching!

[jw25558]

Gettin Gully eh? My boy is on sus500 and he likes it a lot. The only problem is his temper and attitude, both suck. Im subbed, good Luck bro.

Thanks for subbing Bro! This should be a wild ride. What kind of gains has your buddy made so far?

Ever try xt, just curious was thinking off trying it myself

This will be my first time with XT. There is so little feedback and what I read is mixed so I'm really looking forward to seeing what it does for me. I'd say give it a try. I'd like to follow your log.

Sounds good, subbed for sure.

Thanks for subbing Bro!

awesome. I love crazy cycles.

Sus500 looks promising. Strong but good.

Ill be watching!

Oh Yea! I'll be officially starting in just a couple days:D

[Sonny]

JW- always read/follow your logs-they are detailed, entertaining and informative. I am subbed on this one. Good luck!

[jw25558]

good luck with this one man

JW- always read/follow your logs-they are detailed, entertaining and informative. I am subbed on this one. Good luck!

Thanks for the support! I really appreciate it:)

[jw25558]

Today is the day:D I'm going to measure and weight in, then hit the gym for my first workout.

[ItalianGuns]

Good luck with the m1a cycle, I hear it is awsome for strength. Looking forward to it.

Christian

[DriverDan]

I'm currently using a Detox kit so it will be a few days before I get this cycle kicked off.
What is a detox kit? The word detox is usually synonymous with new age BS.

[jw25558]

What is a detox kit? The word detox is usually synonymous with new age BS.

Preventative Nutrition - Complete 7 Day Body Cleansing Program


A 7-day system designed to support overall wellness and digestive health.*
o Gastro Formula
o Total Cleanser
o Blood Circulation Formula
o Liver Cleanser
o Kidney Formula
o Enzyme Blend
o Fiber
o Prebiotic
o Probiotic


AM Formula
Each AM Formula packet contains a Gastro Formula, Total Cleanser and Enzyme Blend. This packet combines specialized herbs such as ginger, artichoke and pomegrante with fructooligosaccharides (FOS) to help promote intestinal health. It also provides digestive enzymes to help promote protein, carbohydrate and fat digestion.*

PM Formula
Each PM Formula packet supplies a Blood Circulation Formula, Liver Cleanser, Kidney Health Formula and Enzyme Blend. This packet blends the popular herbs cayenne, goldenseal and milk thistle which supports liver function with antioxidant herbs such as green tea and grape seed extract. It too provides digestive enzymes that help promote digestion.*


Probiotic – Acidophilus
Introduces beneficial probiotics, acidophilus and bifidobactrim. These organisms are important in promoting the health of the digestive tract.* They not only help maintain the health of the digestive tract but also have a direct influence on the balance of the body's natural flora.* These beneficial flora also support healthy immune function and when taken on a regular basis, support overall digestive health.*

Fiber and Prebiotic Blend Fiber is a necessary component of everyone's diet. Among the many health benefits of fiber, it is most commonly recognized for its ability to aid in the digestion process.* Fiber plays a critical role in the intestinal transit time, it serves as a bulking agent and also provides relief from occasional constipation.* This specially formulated blend features multiple fibers that promote and support daily digestive health.* Unlike other fiber products that typically target the end of the colon, this fiber and prebiotic blend is site specific and provides fibers that work at the beginning, middle and end of the large intestines. By offering this diverse group of fibers, this patented formula helps to improve bowel cleansing without urgency or discomfort.

[NightTrain]

good luck, im looking for some good feedback on XT........... so count me on for the ride. 'Train

[Eyayo]

Thanks for subbing Bro! This should be a wild ride. What kind of gains has your buddy made so far?


Hes up 10 pounds and his strength is up a great big time too. He says he likes it better then test e he ran. I dont know how, but thats what he said.

[jw25558]

good luck, im looking for some good feedback on XT........... so count me on for the ride. 'Train

Thanks Train, Glad to have you aboard!

Hes up 10 pounds and his strength is up a great big time too. He says he likes it better then test e he ran. I dont know how, but thats what he said.

That's awesome! I'll be more than happy to gain 10lbs.

[jw25558]

Here are today's measurements. It looks like I've lost only very little from taking the time off. I'll be back later tonight to post tonight's and last nights workout.

Arms - 15-7/8"
Forearm - 13-1/2"
Wrist - 7-1/2"
Shoulders - 52"
Stomach - 33-3/4"
Waist - 34-1/4"
Thigh - 27"
Calf - 16-3/8"
Neck - 17"
Weight - 204lbs

[DriverDan]

You forgot your chest ;)
good luck, im looking for some good feedback on XT........... so count me on for the ride. 'Train
Me too. Not many reviews of it.

[jw25558]

Good luck with the m1a cycle, I hear it is awsome for strength. Looking forward to it.

Christian

Thanks a bunch Bro! I've heard a lot about the strength gains as well. 400lb squat, Here I Come:D

#'s are a good start bro, lets get crackin!

Thanks Bro! Got a quick question for ya, Is it more beneficial to consume bcaa's/eaa before workout, post workout, or both? How much should a 205lb person use.

[jw25558]

Below are my first two workouts. Nothing too heavy, just getting back in the swing of things. My plans are to add 5-10lbs per workout to my compound/midrange movements to achieve 3 sets a 5 with my previous 5th set max from my previous log. For example, on squats I was doing:

225 x 8
245 x 5
285 x 4
300 x 2
315 x 1

My goal will be to hit 315 with 3 sets of 5 but either way, I'm going back to pyramiding at the end of week 3 as I was in my previous log with hope of adding 20lbs+ to my 1 rep maxes.

Day 1 Workout

Bench Press (Still going up the rack on this one)
155 x 5
175 x 5
185 x 5
205 x 2

Cable Flies
85 x 5
85 x 5

Dips
BW x 5
BW x 5

Behind Neck Pulldowns
135 - 3 sets 5

Barbell Row
260 - 3 sets 5

Barbell Shrug
250lbs - 3 sets 5

Close Grip Bench
180lbs - 3 sets 5

Tricep Kickback
20lbs - 1 set 5


Day 2 Workout

Squat
250 x 5
255 x 5
260 x 5

Leg Extension
150 - 3 sets 6

Military Press
145 - 3 sets 5

1 Arm Shoulder Raise
17.5lbs - 2 sets 5

Wide Grip Upright Rows
145lbs - 3 sets 5

Dumbbell Curl
45lbs - 3 sets 5

Incline Dumbbell Curls
35lbs - 2 sets 5

Concentration Curls
35lbs - 2 sets 5

Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs - 2 sets 5

Undergrip Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs - 2 sets 5

[DriverDan]

Thanks Bro! Got a quick question for ya, Is it more beneficial to consume bcaa's/eaa before workout, post workout, or both? How much should a 205lb person use.
Why do you want to use them? Are they replacing a PWO shake or preworkout meal? If you're eating enough food you don't need them.

Leucine is a good addition to a PWO shake with carbs & protein, but there's not much point to taking them unless it's in place of food (eg early morning workout without a meal).

[NightTrain]

JW, you and me are almost excatly the same as far as measurements go. how tall are you?

[jw25558]

Why do you want to use them? Are they replacing a PWO shake or preworkout meal? If you're eating enough food you don't need them.

Leucine is a good addition to a PWO shake with carbs & protein, but there's not much point to taking them unless it's in place of food (eg early morning workout without a meal).

I see what you're saying. So they would be more beneficial to someone on a recomp or a cut. Thanks Bro.

JW, you and me are almost excatly the same as far as measurements go. how tall are you?

I'm 6'1"

[NightTrain]

5'10 here.............. looking good man

[Sonny]

Does not look like you lost much from the time off. # and measurements loook good. With the size of the quads/hams you should hit that SQ goal no problem.

[jw25558]

I was very fortunate to have not lost very much this time around. That is one thing I like about AN products is it seems that gains are very easy to maintain with them.

[jw25558]

Here's my workout from Monday. Sorry I got behind.

Incline Bench Press
175lbs (3 sets 5)

Incline Cable Flies
85lbs (3 sets 5)

Lat Pulldown
135lbs (3 sets 5)

Dumbbell Pullover
85lbs (3 sets 6)

Undergrip Rows
200lbs (3 sets 6)

Leg Curl
85lbs 3 sets 5

Standing Calf Raise
410lbs 3 sets 8

[jw25558]

Things seem to be going very well so far. The only side effect to note is that I'm more sleepy than normal:confused: Strength is going up at a steady pace. Also, I decided to run this like Solomon suggested for a 40 day cycle. So far, I've been running

Methyl XT - 2 caps (1 morning, 1 8-10 hours later)
SUS500 - 3 caps ed - spread out throughout the day

Here is my workout from 1-23 and the one from yesterday.


1-23

Bench Press
185lbs - 3 sets 5

Cable Flies
90lbs 3 sets 6

Dips
BW x 2

Behind neck Pulldown
137.5 - 3 sets 5

Barbell Row
265lbs - 3 sets 5

Barbell Shrug
250 - 3 sets 5

Close Grip Bench
180 - 2 sets 5



1-24

Squat
260 x 5
265 x 5
270 x 5

Leg Extension
155 - 3 sets 6

Military Press
150 - 3 sets 5

1 Arm Cable Row
17.5lbs - 2 sets 5

Upright Rows
150lbs - 3 sets 5

Dumbbell Curl
45lbs - 3 sets 5

Incline Dumbbell Curls
35lbs - 2 sets 5

Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs - 2 sets 5

Undergrip Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs - 2 sets 5

[LEARN]

log looks good man how long ya going to run methylXT? if not long you might need to bump up to 60mg just a tought

but log looks good

[jw25558]

Sorry I haven't updated in a while. Here is my last 2 workouts.

Incline Bench Press
180lbs - 3 sets 5

Incline Cable Flies
85lbs - 3 sets 6

Pulldowns
140bs - 3 sets 5

Undergrip Barbell Rows
210lbs - 3 sets 6

Leg Curl
85lbs - 3 sets 5

Standing Calf Raise
410lbs - 3 sets 8



1-27

Bench Press
190lbs - 3 sets 5

Cable Flies
95lbs - 3 sets 6

Dips
BW - 3 sets 5

Behind Neck Pulldowns
140lbs - 3 sets 5

Barbell Row
270lbs - 3 sets 5

Barbell Shrug
255lbs - 3 sets 5

Close Grip Bench Press
180lbs - 3 sets 5

[jw25558]

Just a few notes so far, Strength is increasing steadily. I'm developing some puffiness in the nipples so I've been using EForm and B-6 to combat it. There is only a very little soreness so I'm not afraid of any gyno or anything. Other than that, I've felt like crap for the last 3 days. I took today off from the gym and may go back tomorrow. I'll be updating soon.

[NightTrain]

damn dude i thought you dropped of the face of the earth.............

[jw25558]

damn dude i thought you dropped of the face of the earth.............

Hey Bro, I'm still here. I just havent updated in a few days:p . I've felt so terrible these few days that I haven't felt like eating or training. I'm really hoping to get back in the swing of things tonight. Wish me luck!:D

[Sonny]

Hope you snap out of it.

[jw25558]

Things have definitely taken a turn for the better. I had two awesome workouts. This stuff is strange. I am very lethargic but at the same time, I have sheer power while working out. So I guess it works out:o I've definitely put on some weight. I can feel the shirt getting tighter. I'm going to weigh in tomorrow on a empty stomach and I'll report back with my gains.


Workout 2-1

Bench Press
195lbs 3 sets 5

Cable Flies
100lbs 3 sets 6

Dips
BW - 3 sets 5

Behind Neck Pulldowns
145lbs - 3 sets 5

Barbell Row
275lbs 3 sets 5

Barbell Shrug
260lbs 3 sets 5

Close Grip Bench
185lbs 3 sets 5

Tricep Kickback
20lbs 3 sets 5



Workout 2-2

Squat
280 x 5
285 x 5
290 x 5

Leg Ext
165 3 sets 6

Military Press
160lbs 3 sets 5

Lateral Raise
20lbs 3 sets 5

Wide Grip Rows
160lbs 3 sets 5

Dumbbell Curls
45lbs 3 sets 5

Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs 2 sets 8

Undergrip Decline Wrist Curls
65lbs 2 sets 5

[jw25558]

I took my measurements and weight today and am very surprised. I'm already up 6lbs:D I speculate that some of it is probably water retention though. Here are my beginning numbers and current numbers.


Arms - 15-7/8".............16-1/4":D
Forearm - 13-1/2".........13-3/4"
Wrist - 7-1/2"...............7-5/8"
Shoulders - 52".............52-1/2"
Stomach - 33-3/4".........34"
Waist - 34-1/4"..............34"
Thigh - 27"....................27-1/4"
Calf - 16-3/8"................16-1/2"
Neck - 17".....................17-3/8
Weight - 204lbs..............210lbs for a 6lb gain:D


These numbers has really changed my attitude for this cycle. I was getting a little disgusted with the lethargy and puffy nipples but I'm willing to suffer a little if the gains are there;)

Thanks to everyone that is following. Sorry I quit posting there for a few days but I'm back on track now and will be posting regularly.

If anyone has any questions, hit me up.

[Eyayo]

Geat log. Being lethargic does suck, but keep at it. My boy who i told you about blew up on the sus bro and hes been slacking in the gym due to work. I dont know exactly how much he weighs now, but he got brolic. Theres is noticeable water retention, but not too bad. Im Withouta doubt gonna run a 6-8 weeker with these next year.

[bmoremade26]

yeah im going to pick some up myself

[NightTrain]

jw glad to hear you are back on track........... congrats on the 6 lbs now lets see 10 lbs and then 15lbs..... stick with it man.......... 'Train

[jw25558]

Geat log. Being lethargic does suck, but keep at it. My boy who i told you about blew up on the sus bro and hes been slacking in the gym due to work. I dont know exactly how much he weighs now, but he got brolic. Theres is noticeable water retention, but not too bad. Im Withouta doubt gonna run a 6-8 weeker with these next year.

I'd say you will love the results of SUS500. I think I would keep it to a 6 week cycle though. The water retention and puffy nipples is def a problem for me on this one:p

yeah im going to pick some up myself

I hear ya Bro! I notice DA recently reduced the price so nows the time to buy:D

jw glad to hear you are back on track........... congrats on the 6 lbs now lets see 10 lbs and then 15lbs..... stick with it man.......... 'Train

I hear ya:D 15lbs would be sweet! Thanks for all the encouragement Train, It's been a big help!

[jw25558]

This is not something that I would normally do but due to the sides that are continually getting worse, I've decided to end this one early and go straight to pct. I did gain a quick 6lbs from it but it simply wasn't worth it.

I really believe these are two great products but I sincerely believe that either product is strong enough on its own that it doesn't need to be stacked with the other.

Please, don't anyone follow my example and run this cycle, I wouldn't want anyone to feel as bad as I have for the last two weeks. I just jumped in too far over my head with this one. If anyone has any questions about any of the products, I'll do my best to answer.

Thanks to everyone that followed and gave me support:D

[nateedogg27]

This is not something that I would normally do but due to the sides that are continually getting worse, I've decided to end this one early and go straight to pct. I did gain a quick 6lbs from it but it simply wasn't worth it.

I really believe these are two great products but I sincerely believe that either product is strong enough on its own that it doesn't need to be stacked with the other.

Please, don't anyone follow my example and run this cycle, I wouldn't want anyone to feel as bad as I have for the last two weeks. I just jumped in too far over my head with this one. If anyone has any questions about any of the products, I'll do my best to answer.

Thanks to everyone that followed and gave me support:D

Sorry to hear that man!! I'm glad your smart enough to know when to quit. Good Bless & Take care!!

[jw25558]

Sorry to hear that man!! I'm glad your smart enough to know when to quit. Good Bless & Take care!!

Thanks Bro! I appreciate the support:)

[Sonny]

SOunds like the right decision. Thanks for the log. You made some nice gains for sure in that time.

[jw25558]

SOunds like the right decision. Thanks for the log. You made some nice gains for sure in that time.

Thanks Sonny, I appreciate the support! I'm very pleased with the gains I made and feel sure I'll be able to gain a little more in pct.