this may seem dumb but..

[Nex]

this may seem like a dumb question but is propadrol suppressive?

[cubfan4real]

this may seem like a dumb question but is propadrol suppressive?

From everything I've read, it supposedly enhances your libido during a stack. I'm 2 weeks away from my Hdrol/Prop stack. I have been preloading Hawthorne Berry for potential BP issues.

Are you planning on stacking Prop with another compound?

[Nex]

From everything I've read, it supposedly enhances your libido during a stack. I'm 2 weeks away from my Hdrol/Prop stack. I have been preloading Hawthorne Berry for potential BP issues.

Are you planning on stacking Prop with another compound?


reason i am asking is because i am running 4 weeks of tren and epi and i was wondering if it would be of any aid during pct say 1 tablet a day along with nolva and formestane.

[KinesitionChirossage]

reason i am asking is because i am running 4 weeks of tren and epi and i was wondering if it would be of any aid during pct say 1 tablet a day along with nolva and formestane.

YIKES! You are and would be on anti-estrogen overload! And the answer to using Propadrol would be a big no. Though mild, Propadrol is still a pro-hormone. It would/does not have any place during your cycle, or PCT.

As far as your PCT is concerned, you do not need both a SERM and an AI. And you especially wouldn't need a SERM for the cycle that you are running. Trying to figure out how to do a proper PCT on this stack is rather tricky. Unfortunately no one on here except for UNCFan was willing to help me (my bro) on putting together a proper PCT for this stack. The reason I say it's tricky, is because Epi in itself already acts like Formestane in the sense that it is a suicide inhibitor of the aromatase enzyme. Any one of the three anti-Es that you would/are employing has the potential to cause some major rebound.

For PCT, I would personally start out with a lower dosed Hyperdrol and then peak your dosages in the middle, then taper back down.

[Nex]

YIKES! You are and would be on anti-estrogen overload! And the answer to using Propadrol would be a big no. Though mild, Propadrol is still a pro-hormone. It would/does not have any place during your cycle, or PCT.

As far as your PCT is concerned, you do not need both a SERM and an AI. And you especially wouldn't need a SERM for the cycle that you are running. Trying to figure out how to do a proper PCT on this stack is rather tricky. Unfortunately no one on here except for UNCFan was willing to help me (my bro) on putting together a proper PCT for this stack. The reason I say it's tricky, is because Epi in itself already acts like Formestane in the sense that it is a suicide inhibitor of the aromatase enzyme. Any one of the three anti-Es that you would/are employing has the potential to cause some major rebound.

For PCT, I would personally start out with a lower dosed Hyperdrol and then peak your dosages in the middle, then taper back down.

i ran form and nolva after my last epi prop cycle and it worked wonders. i just didnt over loat the form i did at trace doses

[usf97j4x4]

Ah.. reckless serming...

[jdee297]

Propadrol is a ph not an anti estrogen......so using it during pct is a very bad idea.

What you can do is add a natural test boost during cycle to try and stop complete shut down. It worked for me on one of the harshest and most surpresive stacks you can do...p-plex/m-drol bridge.

[Nex]

edit: woops.. see below

[Nex]

Propadrol is a ph not an anti estrogen......so using it during pct is a very bad idea.

What you can do is add a natural test boost during cycle to try and stop complete shut down. It worked for me on one of the harshest and most surpresive stacks you can do...p-plex/m-drol bridge.


i hope you guys dont think im an idiot for asking. i just read under the reveiws that it raises test naturally... so i figured maybe at a minimal dose. or eod or something. but w/e thats why i asked! thanks for the good advice!

NOW as for reckless sermign, nolvadex is clinically proven to stimulate lh levels and does a damned good job of it. i mean dont get me wrong but trib is an excelent ..addition.. to pct as well as all thes other natty boosters but its like saying dont use a serm after a trenbolone cycle or not using a serm after anavar. am i wrong?

[RisingAgainst]

YIKES! You are and would be on anti-estrogen overload! And the answer to using Propadrol would be a big no. Though mild, Propadrol is still a pro-hormone. It would/does not have any place during your cycle, or PCT.

As far as your PCT is concerned, you do not need both a SERM and an AI. And you especially wouldn't need a SERM for the cycle that you are running. Trying to figure out how to do a proper PCT on this stack is rather tricky. Unfortunately no one on here except for UNCFan was willing to help me (my bro) on putting together a proper PCT for this stack. The reason I say it's tricky, is because Epi in itself already acts like Formestane in the sense that it is a suicide inhibitor of the aromatase enzyme. Any one of the three anti-Es that you would/are employing has the potential to cause some major rebound.

For PCT, I would personally start out with a lower dosed Hyperdrol and then peak your dosages in the middle, then taper back down.
Bro, you're sooooo wrong with this post. Firstly, It's not an anti-e overdose.. it's actually a damn good pct. Some people run serms as a precautionary thing, not because it's needed. SERM IS NOT AN AI or ANTI-E. Epi is not what you think it is... it's mechanisms are overrated and misconstrued.
Ah.. reckless serming...

Propadrol is a ph not an anti estrogen......so using it during pct is a very bad idea.

What you can do is add a natural test boost during cycle to try and stop complete shut down. It worked for me on one of the harshest and most surpresive stacks you can do...p-plex/m-drol bridge.
Propadrol is a PH combined with an anti-estrogen...

[RisingAgainst]

i hope you guys dont think im an idiot for asking. i just read under the reveiws that it raises test naturally... so i figured maybe at a minimal dose. or eod or something. but w/e thats why i asked! thanks for the good advice!

NOW as for reckless sermign, nolvadex is clinically proven to stimulate lh levels and does a damned good job of it. i mean dont get me wrong but trib is an excelent ..addition.. to pct as well as all thes other natty boosters but its like saying dont use a serm after a trenbolone cycle or not using a serm after anavar. am i wrong?
SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options.

Anavar is mild in terms of suppression, just not toxicity... trenbelone on the other hand is both potent in suppression and toxicity... the point here, is that you don't need a serm for every little cycle you run. No offense to you, or others that run this cycle, but it's a pussy's cycle.. it's weak, has no synergy and was thrown together poorly. You dont need a serm for a pussy cycle :D

[Addicted2Iron]

SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options.

Anavar is mild in terms of suppression, just not toxicity... trenbelone on the other hand is both potent in suppression and toxicity... the point here, is that you don't need a serm for every little cycle you run. No offense to you, or others that run this cycle, but it's a pussy's cycle.. it's weak, has no synergy and was thrown together poorly. You dont need a serm for a pussy cycle :D

....wow....RA stamping out ignorance...

[mw1111]

[quote=RisingAgainst;165536]SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options.

Thank You!!!!!!!!!:)

[Nex]

SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options.

Anavar is mild in terms of suppression, just not toxicity... trenbelone on the other hand is both potent in suppression and toxicity... the point here, is that you don't need a serm for every little cycle you run. No offense to you, or others that run this cycle, but it's a pussy's cycle.. it's weak, has no synergy and was thrown together poorly. You dont need a serm for a pussy cycle :D

thanks RA, but like you said i will be running it as a precautionary because i have read plenty of posts with people being shut down off of trenadrol or their libio lagging at the end of a cycle from trenadrol. as far as nolva decreasing gh, i have the formestane which increases gh. if i do not need a serm ill prolly just run the formestane obviously with some test boosters.
this ph pct shit is too damned hard to figure out,. what you need pct for and what you dont. next time im just gunna stick with the real deal i think....

CREATINE!
haha jk

[usf97j4x4]

Ahh... reckless serming

Kisses to your liver.

unless you have preexisting gyno you didnt need nolva and form for epi prop stack... eesh

[Voodoo]

"SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options."

I wanted to just reiterate that point.

[Nex]

Ahh... reckless serming

Kisses to your liver.

unless you have preexisting gyno you didnt need nolva and form for epi prop stack... eesh

its epi and tren not epi and prop
i was just symply asking if prop at a low dose eod during pct would be beneficial.

[Nex]

"SERMs are overrated in their usage, nolvadex being the worst, it is liver toxic and decreases GH values... use it if you want, but in all honesty, there's much better options."

I wanted to just reiterate that point.
thank you voo. what do you reccomend i use to raise lh after cycle? i am still gunna use the formestane.
and why does everyone think its an epi and prop cycle.
its a epi and tren cycle!

[jdee297]

Bro, you're sooooo wrong with this post. Firstly, It's not an anti-e overdose.. it's actually a damn good pct. Some people run serms as a precautionary thing, not because it's needed. SERM IS NOT AN AI or ANTI-E. Epi is not what you think it is... it's mechanisms are overrated and misconstrued.



Propadrol is a PH combined with an anti-estrogen...

I knew that but for the perposes of pct... prop is not a good thing.. am i wrong?