Opinions on Methyl-Vol/Trenadrol Stack

[Rock-Star D]

This will be my 4th stack in the last couple of years. 1st was just Prostanozol, 2nd was just Halo, 3rd was Halo/Trenaplex.

My stats are:
24yrs old
5'6
143lbs
approx 8% BF

Goals:
To reach a solid 150-155 eventually with 6% bf and gain quite a bit of strength.

I'm thinking of running this as a 6-week stack that looks like:

Weeks 1 and 2:
60mg Tren per day

Week 3:
90mg Tren 20mg Methylvol

Weeks 4 and 5:
90mg Tren 30mg Methyvol

Week 6:
90mg Tren 40mg Methylvol

Proper Pct will follow.

What do you guys think about this stack and the dosages I listed? I'd like to get some feedback.

[Rock-Star D]

anyone have anything to say? Also, do you think shutdown would be an issue?

[ShiftyCapone]

I don't have much experience with Phera (and clones). So I am of no help there.

Tren is great. But I would suggest possibly running 60mg for the first 3 weeks and then 90mg for the last 3 weeks. And make sure you start some Hawthorn 2 weeks prior to your cycle. That and CoQ10 while on a SD/Tren cycle actually made my BP go down a little.

[Rock-Star D]

I don't have much experience with Phera (and clones). So I am of no help there.

Tren is great. But I would suggest possibly running 60mg for the first 3 weeks and then 90mg for the last 3 weeks. And make sure you start some Hawthorn 2 weeks prior to your cycle. That and CoQ10 while on a SD/Tren cycle actually made my BP go down a little.

Methyl-Vol is a SD clone

[ShiftyCapone]

Haha, misread... Though it said Pheravol. Looong day at work and i'm beat.

And on the contrary, methyl-vol isn't the same as SD. Its got some NO shit and some supporting supps as well (may be wrong about the last part)...

But yeah. Let me start over in the next post. :rolleyes:

[ShiftyCapone]

Alright. Well, i've seen 40mg on Phera quite often. That may have helped confuse me there. I dunno....

Buuut, like I said before, i'd go with 3 weeks at 60 and 3 weeks at 90 on the Tren.

The SD. You're basically setting yourself up for failure before or around your 5th week with that layout.

I personally just finished a Tren/SD cycle as follows:

wk 1: Tren 60mg
wk 2: Tren 60mg
wk 3: Tren 60mg + SD 20mg
wk 4: Tren 90mg + SD 20mg
wk 5: Tren 90mg + SD 30mg
wk 6: Tren 90mg + SD 30mg

(note, this is my 3rd cycle with SD in it, so i'm decently experienced with the compound and how my body reacts to it)

It didn't go as well as I expected with the addition of 30mg at week 5. I'd recommend keeping with 20mg for week 5 and maybe even week 6. For the added sides (well basically just back pumps and backne for ME; rare) in weeks 5 and 6, the gains were not any more prevalent. Don't get me wrong, I got stronger and gained weight during that time, but there were no significant increases in gains from the added SD. (Hopefully you get what I mean, because it makes less sense everytime I read it.)

Tren + SD makes great cycle (as far as gains are concerned), but it is REALLY hard on your body. Make sure you have everything you need before you start. This includes a solid PCT. And if the sides get too rough, don't be afraid to take it back down a notch. Pay attention to the signs your body is giving and just be smart. Drink lots of water and eat....well, just eat...

I also just noticed your size. I've got about 60 pounds and 4 inches on you. So, I definitely would NOT recommend following my dosing parameters on SD....

Hope all this jumble helps you. And if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. I'll check back tomorrow. Time for bed....

[KinesitionChirossage]

This will be my 4th stack in the last couple of years. 1st was just Prostanozol, 2nd was just Halo, 3rd was Halo/Trenaplex.

My stats are:
24yrs old
5'6
143lbs
approx 8% BF

Goals:
To reach a solid 150-155 eventually with 6% bf and gain quite a bit of strength.

I'm thinking of running this as a 6-week stack that looks like:

Weeks 1 and 2:
60mg Tren per day

Week 3:
90mg Tren 20mg Methylvol

Weeks 4 and 5:
90mg Tren 30mg Methyvol

Week 6:
90mg Tren 40mg Methylvol

Proper Pct will follow.

What do you guys think about this stack and the dosages I listed? I'd like to get some feedback.

Six weeks with running these two products concurrently is WAY too long for anyone. Not to mention, that the sides from going over 20mg of Methyl-Vol(Superdrol) does not usually yield much greater gains, but it will definitely deliver in the sides department. The same thing can usually be said about going up to 90mg on the Trenadrol as well.

Since you are foreign to both the Superdrol compound and Trenadrol, your run with these products should be kept to a minimum. I would keep the Superdrol dosage @ 20mg for the entire month and I would also keep Trenadrol @ 60mg for the entire month. Oh, and since you have picked the two harshest compounds in modern PHs to stack, you will NEED, yes NEED a plethora of supportive supplements. Dosing it like I have laid out should yield nothing short of excellent results.

[Rock-Star D]

Six weeks with running these two products concurrently is WAY too long for anyone. Not to mention, that the sides from going over 20mg of Methyl-Vol(Superdrol) does not usually yield much greater gains, but it will definitely deliver in the sides department. The same thing can usually be said about going up to 90mg on the Trenadrol as well.

Since you are foreign to both the Superdrol compound and Trenadrol, your run with these products should be kept to a minimum. I would keep the Superdrol dosage @ 20mg for the entire month and I would also keep Trenadrol @ 60mg for the entire month. Oh, and since you have picked the two harshest compounds in modern PHs to stack, you will NEED, yes NEED a plethora of supportive supplements. Dosing it like I have laid out should yield nothing short of excellent results.


You guys are right, 6 weeks and at those dosages would be really rough. I think that I might throw some Testabolan in the mix and shorten then cycle to 4 weeks. How does this look?

Weeks 1-4
60mg Tren/20mg Methylvol/3 caps Testabolan

[jdee297]

you can run the tren for 6 weeks and run the sd for 3 or 4 weeks.

week 1-2
Tren
week 3-5 or 6
tren and mythle vol

Hawthorn berry is a must and im betting you will need jiont support too. Drink tuns of water and if you have not ran mythle vol by itself then dont stack it for your first time.

[DriverDan]

Were you out of the gym for a long time? 3 cycles and 143 lbs?

[Rock-Star D]

Were you out of the gym for a long time? 3 cycles and 143 lbs?

No, i'm just pretty lean. During my first cycle, my diet sucked. 2nd one was ok. 3rd one was where I saw some good improvements. I'm small, but my strength is pretty respectable.

Squat: 205x5
Bench: 185x5
Deadlifts: 225x5

[mw1111]

No, i'm just pretty lean. During my first cycle, my diet sucked. 2nd one was ok. 3rd one was where I saw some good improvements. I'm small, but my strength is pretty respectable.

Squat: 205x5
Bench: 185x5
Deadlifts: 225x5

I think you still need to work on your diet and all first. You would get alot more out of the cycle later on if you did.;)

[mw1111]

And especially at your weight , i would'nt stack those two.

[DriverDan]

I think you still need to work on your diet and all first. You would get alot more out of the cycle later on if you did.;)
Agreed completely. Diet and routine first, supplements 2nd.

[mw1111]

Why dont you post a sample of your diet in the diet section and see if some things could be changed. There are plenty of people here w/ good knowledgethat im sure would help.:)

[Rock-Star D]

Why dont you post a sample of your diet in the diet section and see if some things could be changed. There are plenty of people here w/ good knowledgethat im sure would help.:)

Current Diet:

approx 3400 calories:

Carbs: 382g about 70% of which are complex
Fat: 95g 75% of which are unsaturated
Protein: 255g---120g from shakes

[ShiftyCapone]

Well i'm glad we helped out a bit and got ya away from that 40mg 4 week thing....

Testabolan, I'm not sure about. Looked it up on here and only found Kin Chi and iForce reps recommending it. So, hopefully someone can chime in and give some good advice about it.

*edit* and as others said, it may even be a good idea to run a solo SD cycle maybe? See how it works on you, how it affects you and what the sides are like. That sorta thing. Assess and then go from there....