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jakedown
December 5th, 2007, 10:49 AM
i usally always use sns inhibit-e but it makes my libido go way down.......but looking into using hd x2 this timearound for my phera/prop cycle...but how would i dose it ? of course i will be using this along side a good test booster and all other supporting supps including a cortisol blocker

Biceps
December 5th, 2007, 12:34 PM
i usally always use sns inhibit-e but it makes my libido go way down.......but looking into using hd x2 this timearound for my phera/prop cycle...but how would i dose it ? of course i will be using this along side a good test booster and all other supporting supps including a cortisol blocker


I've used 6bromo as my primary pct chem for a cycle of P-Plex before and it worked wonderfully. My strength went up, my libido returned within 1 week, I was constantly in a great mood and didn't even feel like I was running a pct at the time. Here's how I would dose it.

Week1: 6 caps (300mg 6bromo)
Week2: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)
Week3: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)
Week4: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)

I recently added in our Advanced PCT product to get a little more 6bromo in and I'm loving it. I think that HyperdrolX2 + Advanced PCT would make for a sick pct. If you include the Advanced PCT, here's how I'd set it up.

Week1: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week2: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week3: 3 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week4: 2 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT

Here's some information on the ingredients in Advanced PCT. It'll make for a much smoother and more complete recovery if you combine the two.

Cordyceps Extract - This powerful extract has been demonstrated to increase LH which is one of the testosterone activators that is directly related to secretion of testosterone from the testes(8). It has traditionally been used for the enhancement on sexual performance in China for many centuries, which means that your libido gets a boost as well. Our extract is one of a kind and very potent, containing almost three times more active constituents than the widely used (7% active) commercial extract!

L-Histadine – To compliment the increase of LH production from the Cordyceps, this compound acts to increase the responsiveness of the Leydig cells which use the LH to produce testosterone. These two components work together to jumpstart the Testosterone Feedback Loop back into production and finding your body’s delicate balance. L-Histadine is a direct precursor to histamine(9) which is an important component in the production of the testosterone activators and has been shown to increase the responsiveness of Leydig cells. (*note - anti-histamines, commonly used for seasonal allergy and illness, lower testosterone levels by an inverse mechanism and should be avoided during PCT when possible.)

Grape Seed Extract – The first of a two-pronged approach to controlling estrogen. Grape seeds contain Procyanidin Dimmers which act to slow the mechanism of the conversion process10 of androgens to estrogen (aromatization). Control, not eradication of estrogen, is important when coming off a cycle and this grape seed extract will slow the process down to normal levels. The grape seed extract works synergistically with the 6-Bromodione to normalize estrogen levels. The extract that we use is very potent and contains not less than 95% PCO content! Grape Seed is also a fantastic anti-oxidant, almost 30x more effective than vitamin C.

6-Bromodione – Excess estrogen is a huge problem post cycle which is ultimately affected by the increase in aromatase enzymes that the body produces in response to an increase in androgens while on cycle. Whether the product that you took can convert to estrogen or not, this excess aromatase will affect the natural testosterone production that we are trying to jumpstart. Without controlling the excess aromatase, as your natural testosterone production increases, it will be bombarded with aromatase and convert to estrogen. 6-Bromodione binds to the aromatase enzyme making it unable to convert androgens to estrogen. Advanced PCT contains two separate forms (isomers) that work to control and normalize estrogen and aromatase levels.

1) 6-alpha-Bromodione is a fast acting competitive inhibitor of the aromatase enzyme. It works by binding to the aromatase enzyme to prevent it from aromatizing androgens. This is not a permanent binding and later acts to normalize aromatase (and thus estrogen levels) as hormone production returns to normal. It specifically targets aromatase and does not act as a central anti-androgen like some other post cycle products can. This means that your libido and mood will not be negatively affected.

2) 6-beta-Bromodione works in a similar way but has an irreversible and permanent effect. This works well to mediate the excess aromatase that was produced while on cycle, while the alpha isomer works to normalize the natural levels. The goal is again to transition into normal production levels for all hormones affected by the anabolic cycle.

mw1111
December 5th, 2007, 04:49 PM
The first example you showed would require 2 bottles of HDX2? correct?

Biceps
December 5th, 2007, 05:18 PM
The first example you showed would require 2 bottles of HDX2? correct?


Correct. You can most certainly pct with 200mg 6bromo throughout. However, the dosage of 6bromo to be taken largely depends on the cycle you run, how high of a dose you run each compound at, the duration for which you run each compound, etc. Stronger cycles will require more 6bromo, weaker cycles will require less. So 200mg may be more than enough. It just depends on the factors involved.

Also, if you don't want to drop another $40-50 on HyperdrolX2, and instead just want to use 1 bottle of HyperdrolX2 during pct, then pick up a bottle of Advanced PCT and take 3 caps daily alongside the 4 caps of HyperdrolX2. That will add an additional 75mg of 6bromo to the 200mg of 6bromo you're already taking in from the HyperdrolX2. The Cordyceps, L-Histadine, and Grape Seed Extract will greatly compliment your post cycle therapy, boosting LH secretion and boosting the resposiveness of the leydig cells in your testes, fully optimizing testosterone synthesis and output and making recovery that much easier.

usf97j4x4
December 5th, 2007, 05:25 PM
Or you could add some ALRI Restore, it has 6bromo and a cortisol blocker

Biceps
December 5th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Or you could add some ALRI Restore, it has 6bromo and a cortisol blocker

Yes, another good option :)

GotTest
December 5th, 2007, 08:35 PM
Week1: 6 caps (300mg 6bromo)
Week2: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)
Week3: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)
Week4: 4 caps (200mg 6bromo)

I recently added in our Advanced PCT product to get a little more 6bromo in and I'm loving it. I think that HyperdrolX2 + Advanced PCT would make for a sick pct. If you include the Advanced PCT, here's how I'd set it up.

Week1: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week2: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week3: 3 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week4: 2 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT

Bicep,
How would you dose each example(time of day)? I saw where some take all caps before bed.
I actually spread mine throughout the day and PCT was smooth!
I won't do another PCT without it.;)

kazzo850
December 6th, 2007, 06:10 PM
i did this and i took it with trisorbagen alongside. trisorbagen will offer more pct protection too.

take 1 aPCT with 1 HDX2 upon waking, then 1 APCT 6-8hrs later, then 1 apct 6-8hr later, then 2 HDX2 before bed. you will love this pct! I took the Trisorbagen before bed, upon waking, and the 2nd aPCT dose.

Biceps
December 7th, 2007, 11:48 PM
Bicep,
How would you dose each example(time of day)? I saw where some take all caps before bed.
I actually spread mine throughout the day and PCT was smooth!
I won't do another PCT without it.;)


Spread evenly throughout the day always works great. I prefer to take 2 caps of hyperdrolX2 before bed though to take advantage of the natural test production that occurs while we sleep.

The Damage
December 17th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Correct. You can most certainly pct with 200mg 6bromo throughout. However, the dosage of 6bromo to be taken largely depends on the cycle you run, how high of a dose you run each compound at, the duration for which you run each compound, etc. Stronger cycles will require more 6bromo, weaker cycles will require less. So 200mg may be more than enough. It just depends on the factors involved.

Also, if you don't want to drop another $40-50 on HyperdrolX2, and instead just want to use 1 bottle of HyperdrolX2 during pct, then pick up a bottle of Advanced PCT and take 3 caps daily alongside the 4 caps of HyperdrolX2. That will add an additional 75mg of 6bromo to the 200mg of 6bromo you're already taking in from the HyperdrolX2. The Cordyceps, L-Histadine, and Grape Seed Extract will greatly compliment your post cycle therapy, boosting LH secretion and boosting the resposiveness of the leydig cells in your testes, fully optimizing testosterone synthesis and output and making recovery that much easier.


So beside HDX2 and Advanced PCT by AX, would a Cortisol blocker be the only other compound needed or would a Trib Product also be required?

Biceps
December 17th, 2007, 07:33 PM
So beside HDX2 and Advanced PCT by AX, would a Cortisol blocker be the only other compound needed or would a Trib Product also be required?

A cortisol blocker in any pct is always recommended. It's that extra step you can take to ensure that you maintain all of your hard earned gains as cortisol levels tend to be on the high side when you come off a cycle. Never a good thing when testosterone levels are low ;)

Trib is also excellent in pct for anyone who is having libido issues. It has really worked wonders for me when I've run some of the more suppressive compounds in the past. A trib and avena sativa combo FTW.

The Damage
December 18th, 2007, 09:48 AM
A cortisol blocker in any pct is always recommended. It's that extra step you can take to ensure that you maintain all of your hard earned gains as cortisol levels tend to be on the high side when you come off a cycle. Never a good thing when testosterone levels are low ;)

Trib is also excellent in pct for anyone who is having libido issues. It has really worked wonders for me when I've run some of the more suppressive compounds in the past. A trib and avena sativa combo FTW.


Okay, so HDX2, Advanced PCT, Lean Extreme, and Stim Free Blue Up it is! :)

Thanks.

llllern
December 23rd, 2007, 07:08 PM
funny this is I just asked on the AX board almost the same Q lol

no worries on this board:)

steelwolf
December 28th, 2007, 11:04 AM
this is exactly what im using for my PCT for
6 weeks halo 75
6 weeks prop 90

the advanced pct and hd2 and retain hoping that is enough to jump start the boys decided to not use the treb as i see alot of stuff saying it really dosnt do to much

Biceps
December 28th, 2007, 07:41 PM
this is exactly what im using for my PCT for
6 weeks halo 75
6 weeks prop 90

the advanced pct and hd2 and retain hoping that is enough to jump start the boys decided to not use the treb as i see alot of stuff saying it really dosnt do to much


Trib works well if you're having libido issues during pct, or even after.

jakedown
January 1st, 2008, 08:53 PM
well my pct is gonna be hd-x2,advance pct, retain 2, hypertest

also will be starting testabolan 2 weeks in to my cycle and cont through pct

anything i should ass or take away ? i already have all these products on hand as i am about 8 days into my cycle right now....i also have e-form would it be okay to use this along with all these other products


(i have all liver,heart etc. support as well i wil be taking)

jakedown
January 4th, 2008, 07:41 AM
anyone ?...

The Damage
January 4th, 2008, 11:15 AM
anyone ?...


Don't use the E Form outside of the cycle itself.

It's great during a cycle, but E Form shouldn't be used during PCT as it has slight hormonal rectifying properties.