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B-natural
November 25th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Alrighty, I am normally against a test booster on cycle for various reasons.

However, I am running an extended cycle and am thinking to use something this time.

I have narrowed it down to 3:
1. Activate Xtreme <I like the T boosters, and the Divanil component
2. Hypertest < strong trib extract
3. Isa-Test <decent combo of ingredients, never used before

solomon1979
November 25th, 2007, 10:33 AM
When is the cycle?

mw1111
November 25th, 2007, 11:34 AM
When is the cycle?
And what is it?

B-natural
November 25th, 2007, 05:44 PM
When is the cycle?
dec 17th
And what is it?

8 wks bold 600, ramped to 800
6wks halo, started in wk 3, 50 ramped to 75

solomon1979
November 25th, 2007, 05:49 PM
I would probably go with the product that doesn't include Long Jack(Activate Extreme). Good luck with this one.

egodog48
November 25th, 2007, 06:23 PM
I would probably go with the product that doesn't include Long Jack(Activate Extreme). Good luck with this one.

whats wrong with the long jack addition

solomon1979
November 25th, 2007, 06:36 PM
whats wrong with the long jack addition

There's a couple of studies where it demonstarted androgenic sides in castrated mice. Its also been known to aggrivate estrogenic sides when stacked with an aromitizing compound. IMO, its probably avoided for his purpose of an on cycle addition.

B-natural
November 25th, 2007, 08:09 PM
so which would you recommend? or do you think its best just to stay away and wait till pct?

B-natural
November 25th, 2007, 08:15 PM
TZ3 by sci-fit? look good? has ZMA, does hypertest have longjack?

Clickster
November 25th, 2007, 08:22 PM
TZ3 by sci-fit? look good? has ZMA, does hypertest have longjack?

Yes it does.

Eurycoma Longifolia is also known as Long Jack.

This may sway you from getting HyperTEST for your "on cycle test booster" from what Sol has said, but I did want to answer your question.

usf97j4x4
November 25th, 2007, 08:26 PM
Yes it does.

Eurycoma Longifolia is also known as Long Jack.

This may sway you from getting HyperTEST for your "on cycle test booster" from what Sol has said, but I did want to answer your question.

Thats why I love DA reps

How bout testabolan? It worked really well for me on my bold cycle

B-natural
November 25th, 2007, 09:49 PM
don't wanna haveta run something for the entire 8wks, too pricey, esp. for what I got into this. after reading the "needs" for the on cycle boost, i'll just stay away from it, and do what i can to boost during pct.

1 bottle is fine, 2 bottles= too much, less i can swing a free one :D

solomon1979
November 25th, 2007, 10:06 PM
don't wanna haveta run something for the entire 8wks, too pricey, esp. for what I got into this. after reading the "needs" for the on cycle boost, i'll just stay away from it, and do what i can to boost during pct.

1 bottle is fine, 2 bottles= too much, less i can swing a free one :D

PM coming your way.

B-natural
November 26th, 2007, 08:18 AM
Sweet, ok, we will haveta see on this one, as I tend to go overboard with things and end up having too many supps to know whats really effective and what isn't. The only on-cycle t-booster will be ZMA, thnx for all the help fellas, the prod I chose will be incorporated in the future

CLM
November 26th, 2007, 09:35 PM
If anyone peeps their head in here that's doing an 8 week cycle of Activate Extreme, how much time are you planning on/do you suggest to take off between cycles?

Thankya!

egodog48
November 28th, 2007, 12:10 AM
There's a couple of studies where it demonstarted androgenic sides in castrated mice. Its also been known to aggrivate estrogenic sides when stacked with an aromitizing compound. IMO, its probably avoided for his purpose of an on cycle addition.

This was the part that I had remembered, but realistically then, would you still want to run it immediately after while your estrogen levels are relatively higher?

solomon1979
November 28th, 2007, 12:44 AM
This was the part that I had remembered, but realistically then, would you still want to run it immediately after while your estrogen levels are relatively higher?

For libido purposes only and sparingly if its being used. Its actually more common for people to run cycles of products that don't aromitize, than it is for someone to use those that do(these days anyways).

dinoiii
November 28th, 2007, 06:31 PM
There's a couple of studies where it demonstarted androgenic sides in castrated mice. Its also been known to aggrivate estrogenic sides when stacked with an aromitizing compound. IMO, its probably avoided for his purpose of an on cycle addition.

Trying to follow your logic sol. I don't know that androgenic sides are a bad thing in something/anything castrated.

As for aromatization...the ability of boldenone to convert to estrogen is estimated at 20%. One thing that must be considered is the ability of 1,4 AD to convert to boldenone first which doesn't approximate full dose. Even so, the aromatization of boldenone - while theoretically an issue, it doesn't translate into practice too often.

Halo isn't even a concern at all.


Thats why I love DA reps

How bout testabolan? It worked really well for me on my bold cycle

Question I have: Did you run BOLD solo at all and what were the comparative stats?



D_

B-natural
November 29th, 2007, 09:03 AM
D, I believe solomon was referring to Long Jack with the study he posted, and not the PH's I plan to use...

dinoiii
November 29th, 2007, 12:20 PM
D, I believe solomon was referring to Long Jack with the study he posted, and not the PH's I plan to use...

He was speaking of stacking Eurycoma with something with aromatization ability. I merely was making a comment that BOLD has low and Halo has none (provided, of course, they are what it says on the label).


D_

usf97j4x4
November 29th, 2007, 12:40 PM
D, I started the solo bold cycle and by week 2-3 my libido was seriously diminished, I picked up some testabolan and ran it at a low dose trying to save some money but it didnt help much either. It wasnt until I ran the testabolan at 3-4 caps did I feel like I was 'back to normal.'

From my experience it seems to work

I would note I experienced no other sides while on Bold.

dinoiii
November 29th, 2007, 01:06 PM
D, I started the solo bold cycle and by week 2-3 my libido was seriously diminished, I picked up some testabolan and ran it at a low dose trying to save some money but it didnt help much either. It wasnt until I ran the testabolan at 3-4 caps did I feel like I was 'back to normal.'

From my experience it seems to work

I would note I experienced no other sides while on Bold.

I see - Interesting.

I would have loved to see blood work.



D_

usf97j4x4
November 29th, 2007, 01:43 PM
I see - Interesting.

I would have loved to see blood work.



D_

So would as, I ran the cycle after everyone told me how fabulous it was and how there was only a slim chance of sides. I experienced probably the strongest libido drop i've ever had in a matter of weeks.

solomon1979
November 29th, 2007, 04:16 PM
D, I believe solomon was referring to Long Jack with the study he posted, and not the PH's I plan to use...

He was speaking of stacking Eurycoma with something with aromatization ability. I merely was making a comment that BOLD has low and Halo has none (provided, of course, they are what it says on the label).


D_

My comments were based on Long Jack's inclusion for 8 weeks. I guess I could have explained myself better.