Furazadrol experience

[Massivehunt]

First of all I like to say hello to everyone and hope everyone continues on with their journey in the gym with great success and good health.
I thought I would begin my first post with my experience with Axis Labs Furazadrol. I didn't run a log on it due to my insane schedule, but can fill you in on some of the details.
I ran Furazadrol for six weeks at 3 caps a day (150mg). In addition I experimented with the cyclical ketogenic diet to enhance fat loss at a quicker rate. I did notice more hardness and much more strength while taking this supplement. The part that impressed me was how strong I got on such a strict diet consisting of 60% fat and 30% protein 0% carbs during monday through friday. While Saturday and Sunday was 70% carbs 20% protein and 10%fat. In addition, I also used an ECA stack, Ax retain (3 a day), sesamin + fish oils plus Kilosports Attack (3 before bed). I was doing real good up to week 5 until I caught a devastating stomach virus that bed ridden me for four days. So for a few days I had to stop all supplements due to my stomach. I eventually recovered and continued where I am now finishing week six.
Furazadrol is a great product if your looking to lean out especially in the lower abdomen region. I trained Monday through Friday incorporating 45 min of cardio after each workout. I trained like a freight train and never gave up. I started with an excellent base that I built bleeding for 12 years training never touching a prohormone or anything stronger.
Furazadrol will do wonders with a clean and strict diet and works better when cardio is done. I started at 185 and finsished at 172-174 looking much harder and just as big as when I started. I think taking three a day (150mg) is conservative and wonder what would happen if someone was to take 5 or 6 a day. As far as blood pressure, no alteration while taking it and that is taking it with an ECA stack. Im going to do a blood test next week to see if my liver was impacted at all eventhough it was non methylated. Its just for curiousity. Im sorry if this post is lengthy but wanted to share with everyone my experience with this new product. Id like to see someone take it and bump it up to 250mg a day. As far as now I will inform everyone how my blood test goes. I f anyone has any questions please ask. As far as a pct your welcomed to give me some recommendations that you think would be adequate. As far as Furazadrol, it definately works for losing fat. I bet a six week stack with trenadrol would be out of control. As for now Stay healthy and strong.

[Clickster]

I want to start by welcoming you to the board. It is a great place here with a lot of nice people and a lot of knowledge.

I also want to say thank you for the kind words and I am glad you had success with Furazadrol.

[RisingAgainst]

Ya, X2, welcome, I'm happy for you..


I wanna have some success with Furazadrol :p :(

[DriverDan]

What were your starting and ending body fat percentages? Have you cut with all of these supplements before, minus the Furazadrol?

[GotTest]

Excuse my ignorance...

Is Furazadrol a PH that requires PCT? The description and nomenclature seems to imply that it is.
:confused:

[DriverDan]

Excuse my ignorance...

Is Furazadrol a PH that requires PCT? The description and nomenclature seems to imply that it is.
:confused:
It's a PH so yes, it requires PCT.

[GotTest]

It's a PH so yes, it requires PCT.
Thanks Dan.
I haven't read too many experiences with Furaz., but sounds interesting.

The original post made NO mention of PCT or typical PH sides (shutdown, libido, acne, etc) so I second guessed my assumption.

BTW... You responded quicker than I was able to check Voodoo's sticky and saw it under class II.

[LEARN]

welcome to the forum and thanks for the feed back

sounds like ya had good results on this product

[Massivehunt]

What were your starting and ending body fat percentages? Have you cut with all of these supplements before, minus the Furazadrol?

To DriverDan,

I started around 13-14% bodyfat and ended roughly close to 9%. I never used a supplement like this before. Ive always cutted by traditional dieting and using a ECA stack. However this is the first time Ive seen a tremendous difference in the lower abdomen area which is a stubborn area for me. Im very pleased because i have very little subcutaneous fat in that area now.
As far as pct I do have a serm on hand and hypertest and Ax retain. I also have a botlle of ultralabs super test I bought a while back cause it looks so solid and has so many things in it. Also as for shutdown I did notice a decrease in libido but I dont attribute that to Furazadrol. I was using Kilosports Attack which is an AI if im correct. So im sure that contributed significantly in that aspect. And on another note, it took a while for furazadrol to kick in. Once it does you will know. I hope this helps.

[GotTest]

As far as pct I do have a serm on hand and hypertest and Ax retain. I also have a botlle of ultralabs super test I bought a while back cause it looks so solid and has so many things in it. Also as for shutdown I did notice a decrease in libido but I dont attribute that to Furazadrol. I was using Kilosports Attack which is an AI if im correct. So im sure that contributed significantly in that aspect. And on another note, it took a while for furazadrol to kick in. Once it does you will know. I hope this helps.
Thanks for throwing out your experience and welcome!

Are you still on cycle with Furaz or have you started PCT with SERM, and support supports? I couldn't follow where you were at so far.:p

[Massivehunt]

I just began the sixth week of furazadrol. As for pct do you really think I should use a serm for this product. It wasnt a heavy cyle per say and I am using Kilosports Attack throughout the whole six weeks. I think a good natural test booster and a cortisol agent should be adequate for this kind of cycle. However anybody please give your insight on what you think would be optimal for pct after use of this compound. Furthermore I'm getting my blood tested tomorrow to see lipids, cholesterol, liver enzymes and such. Im just curious to see if Furazadrol affected my liver in any way eventhough its suggested that it wont. However I do recall somewhere that it may affect lipid profiles. Thanks everyone for welcoming me. Dont be afraid to ask as much as you want. Thats why I signed up here; to help everyone as they will help me. Take care.

[thebigt]

your experience sounds very much like mine. i ran e-form with furazadrol at 3 caps a day. starting weight 250 ending weight 232. great stuff, im interested in your liver results as i am planning to run this again.

[Clickster]

Was this your first time running a ckd? just curious how that type of diet played a role in your fatloss.

Yeah, because it couldn't have been from the FURAZADROL. ;)

[Massivehunt]

Yes this was the first time I have used such a radical approach to dieting.
First off, the ckd is very very hard. I didn't want to consume a high abundance of saturated fats so I used alot of olive oil (swallowing it by itself 2 tablespoons at a time etc..) and used alot of MCT's which helps with the energy, and a high abundance of fish oils.
The hardest thing about this diet for me was I felt half alive during the week. I had major brain fogs and was very moody with fluctuating mood swings.
During the weekend with the high carb intake (Sat and Sun) I felt even worst because half the time I felt drugged and wanted to sleep all day (due to the massive influx of glycogen). Thats how I know the diet was working however I really dont recommend this approach. I wanted to experiment a little this time and see what would happen. My workouts were very very taxing as it is and I felt very weak but was pretty strong at the same time. I attribute that to the Furazadrol for sure. I dont think the diet per say accelerated the fat loss solely by itself but the Furazadrol amplified everything. I think sticking to leafy greens, plain oatmeal, and plain brown rice is the way to go honestly. Im glad I caught a stomach virus because Im pretty sure the ckd really lowered the immune system so the diet abruptly ended.
I must testify that if I were to eat a sensible diet like I just mentioned and bumped the dosage on the Furazadrol my strength gains would have been very impressive. With this crazy diet, I was doing one arm rows with 125 dumbells for 10 strict reps etcc... If it wasnt for the Furazadrol I would have never been able to do it yet alone stay anabolic on during the week on such a diet. Hope this helps.

[GotTest]

I just began the sixth week of furazadrol. As for pct do you really think I should use a serm for this product.

For me personally, I wouldn't skip a SERM if I "felt" signs of shutdown (testicular atrophy, loss of libido, lethargy, etc). However I've read SEVERAL posts of guys "coming back" without SERM, just takes a little while. I would think 6 weeks on a PH would shut you down.:rolleyes:

True shutdown can only be revealed through blood test though.

[DriverDan]

I started around 13-14% bodyfat and ended roughly close to 9%. I never used a supplement like this before. Ive always cutted by traditional dieting and using a ECA stack. However this is the first time Ive seen a tremendous difference in the lower abdomen area which is a stubborn area for me. Im very pleased because i have very little subcutaneous fat in that area now.
As far as pct I do have a serm on hand and hypertest and Ax retain. I also have a botlle of ultralabs super test I bought a while back cause it looks so solid and has so many things in it. Also as for shutdown I did notice a decrease in libido but I dont attribute that to Furazadrol. I was using Kilosports Attack which is an AI if im correct. So im sure that contributed significantly in that aspect. And on another note, it took a while for furazadrol to kick in. Once it does you will know. I hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback, good info!

Yes this was the first time I have used such a radical approach to dieting.
First off, the ckd is very very hard. I didn't want to consume a high abundance of saturated fats so I used alot of olive oil (swallowing it by itself 2 tablespoons at a time etc..) and used alot of MCT's which helps with the energy, and a high abundance of fish oils.
The hardest thing about this diet for me was I felt half alive during the week. I had major brain fogs and was very moody with fluctuating mood swings.
During the weekend with the high carb intake (Sat and Sun) I felt even worst because half the time I felt drugged and wanted to sleep all day (due to the massive influx of glycogen). Thats how I know the diet was working however I really dont recommend this approach. I wanted to experiment a little this time and see what would happen. My workouts were very very taxing as it is and I felt very weak but was pretty strong at the same time. I attribute that to the Furazadrol for sure. I dont think the diet per say accelerated the fat loss solely by itself but the Furazadrol amplified everything. I think sticking to leafy greens, plain oatmeal, and plain brown rice is the way to go honestly. Im glad I caught a stomach virus because Im pretty sure the ckd really lowered the immune system so the diet abruptly ended.
I must testify that if I were to eat a sensible diet like I just mentioned and bumped the dosage on the Furazadrol my strength gains would have been very impressive. With this crazy diet, I was doing one arm rows with 125 dumbells for 10 strict reps etcc... If it wasnt for the Furazadrol I would have never been able to do it yet alone stay anabolic on during the week on such a diet. Hope this helps.
Next time you diet you may want to try TKD instead. When I did TKD I felt great and was still in ketosis at 75-100g carbs per day. My workouts still went well, I never felt weak like my glycogen was depleted. I had a little brain fog at the very beginning but that only lasted a few days. No crazy carb ups either so you don't confuse the hell out of your body.

[cardiffgiant]

Thanks for the feedback, good info!


Next time you diet you may want to try TKD instead. When I did TKD I felt great and was still in ketosis at 75-100g carbs per day. My workouts still went well, I never felt weak like my glycogen was depleted. I had a little brain fog at the very beginning but that only lasted a few days. No crazy carb ups either so you don't confuse the hell out of your body.
:D Great Post-I felt nice too while doing but longterm at around 50g/day (with a cheat meal once per week)it does get tiring-limited food choices,etc.I used a lot of EFAs and felt nice and filled out.My libido was boosted too for some reason.Maybe hormones from steaks and or all the fats making more T?who knows but I will do again down the road.

[Massivehunt]

Thanks. Next time I dont know if i will ever go back to the keto diet again. To be honest I rather gain some lean body mass rather than maintain and lose just fat. However some individuals do well on it mentally and physically. I wasnt one of those. I must emphasize that you will definately lose weight on this diet. I didn't lose any muscle size based on what I saw. I did lose alot in the midsection however next time I diet I rather feel human. My body does very well on just eating clean (oatmeal and brown rice). On top of it all its very taxing to stay under 20 grams of carbs a day on the ckd. And for whoever is interested on my high carb day I used Universal nutrition's Cell pro twice a day; one in the morning and one in evening before meals. That really put myself in a glycogen induced drug-like state. Also the very interesting thing for you guys is when I was eating for ketosis Monday through Friday my weight stayed around 172-175. When I carbed up on Sat and Sun my weight went high as 184. However like I stated in the beginning of my post Im around a steady 172 but look 185. I didnt get to post pics but the next log I will do it for everyone.
Also since this is my first time joining I tend to forget to add a lil info here and there so bare with me. I forgot to mention that Furazadrol will aggrevate joint issues. One thing I did notice is my shoulders were extremely clicky and dry. Just a word of caution. I was taking up to 12-15g a day of fish oil capsules for the joints plus a glucosamine supplement with white willow bark etc... Maybe a cissus product would counteract this issue. Sorry to mention this now, just trying to inform everyone the best I can with my experience. I hope I have been a help.

[LivenLarge]

pictures???


Did you get your blood work done yet?

[Massivehunt]

Hey LivenLarge

I was going to take before and after pics but with my hectic schedule I never got up to it. I could post a pic of me now but I rather do a before and after for next time. I think its optimal for everyone to see visual progress. As for the bloodwork yes I had it done yesterday. I did a basic bloodtest testing for cholesterol, lipids, hdl, ldl, glucose, and most eagerly waiting to see my liver enzymes. Ill keep evryone posted. I dont think it would be a good thing if my liver enzymes are show elevated especially on a product that emphasizes its non-methylated on the bottle. During this whole six weeks I have not taken one thing that would have elevate my liver enzymes. I dont drink, didnt take any advil etc... so I will know what caused it. Take care.

[Massivehunt]

I got my blood test today. Check on here later tonight for a further analysis. Crazy day today will be back on tonight.

[dinoiii]

Welcome to the forum...a few points I would like to make below...


Yes this was the first time I have used such a radical approach to dieting.

The diet, itself...works though, so how are we to discern what you attribute to the diet and what to the supplement.



First off, the ckd is very very hard.

I agree to some level, but much of it actually depends on your dedication.




I didn't want to consume a high abundance of saturated fats so I used alot of olive oil (swallowing it by itself 2 tablespoons at a time etc..) and used alot of MCT's which helps with the energy, and a high abundance of fish oils.

There are plenty of alternative options. ONE POINT...if you did use "A LOT" of MCTs, you should realize that they ARE SATURATED FATS. The above statement reads a bit funny. MCTs are ONLY energy-producing when carbs are NOT in abundance.



The hardest thing about this diet for me was I felt half alive during the week. I had major brain fogs and was very moody with fluctuating mood swings.

I wish you had contacted me before you did it. There actually is NO reason with all the weapons at your latitude that you should have felt inherently "bad."




During the weekend with the high carb intake (Sat and Sun) I felt even worst because half the time I felt drugged and wanted to sleep all day (due to the massive influx of glycogen).

The tiredness many experience on the weekends is actually usually due to insulin rather than glycogen iteself. There are many times people ask me if they even need to go off a CKD as the feel better on the low-carb period. HA! The rationale for entering a CKD is to employ the likely benefits of this glycogen recomp to fuel workouts. I read that your workouts (like 5 per week) with cardio nonetheless (there is a reason this is a virtual no-no in CKDs...1 or 2 days at the most and 10-15 minutes at best) were likely more the cause.



My workouts were very very taxing as it is and I felt very weak but was pretty strong at the same time.

Again, this shouldn't have entirely been the case; see above.




Im glad I caught a stomach virus because Im pretty sure the ckd really lowered the immune system so the diet abruptly ended.

WHOA! After using this diet with thousands of clients, I think this is a false claim...




Next time you diet you may want to try TKD instead. When I did TKD I felt great and was still in ketosis at 75-100g carbs per day. My workouts still went well, I never felt weak like my glycogen was depleted. I had a little brain fog at the very beginning but that only lasted a few days. No crazy carb ups either so you don't confuse the hell out of your body.

Confusing the hell out of the body is part of the rationale behind why it works well for MANY, MANY that try it appropriately per year. The usual rationale behind people's woes with the diet is usually inherent with the diet, BUT the misconceptions with how the diet is to be run.

TKDs and CKDs, even TCKDs ALL have their place.



[COLOR=DarkRed]Thanks. Next time I dont know if i will ever go back to the keto diet again. To be honest I rather gain some lean body mass rather than maintain and lose just fat. However some individuals do well on it mentally and physically. I wasnt one of those....I did lose alot in the midsection however next time I diet I rather feel human. My body does very well on just eating clean (oatmeal and brown rice). On top of it all its very taxing to stay under 20 grams of carbs a day on the ckd. And for whoever is interested on my high carb day I used Universal nutrition's Cell pro twice a day; one in the morning and one in evening before meals. That really put myself in a glycogen induced drug-like state. Also the very interesting thing for you guys is when I was eating for ketosis Monday through Friday my weight stayed around 172-175.

The rationale behind why you tried the CKD in the first place was likely because the regular diet everyone champions DIDN'T work. Otherwise such "drastic" measures likely wouldn't have been employed. Chastitization too of a diet that allows you to see your lower abdominal muscles in a way that you could NOT achieve with alternative strategies seems a bit out of place.

And by the sounds of it, your glycogen super-recomps were NOT sufficient the way the diet is written.


Regards,

D_

[KinesitionChirossage]

MassiveHunt, you said that you pretty much felt like ass throughout the duration of your CKD. Could you elaborate as to what all supplements you were taking down to your multi, b vitamins, etc. From what I have gathered thus far, you took ephedra, caffeine, aspirin (ECA), Retain2. Maybe I missed something, but I could see how you'd feel like shit without the inclusion of vitamins and nootropics. I'm getting extremely excited to get my CKD under way, but am encountering a lot of troubles figuring out how to do it. I think the diet is WAY too complex to start without knowing all the ins, and outs of the diet. If you'd be willing to help piece everything to together, I'd be much obliged.

I bought the BODYOPUS and am finding it to be a bit of a boring read chalked with erroneous information that is not relevant to the CKD. But, nonetheless, I will complete it by weeks end I'm sure.

[dinoiii]

btw: I apoloize for not talking about Furazadrol, however...I have NO experience with this compound myself to date. Click, what happened...I responded over at LB?



D_

[Massivehunt]

As I promised I got a blood test (a basic health panel) for myself and for everyone to see if anything happened. To remind everyone I did "try" to incorporate the cyclical ketogenic diet into my regime. Besides Furazadrol at 150mg a day I consumed the following supplements, Ax retain, Fish oils, Sesamin capsules from MAN sports, a Glucosamine joint concoction, an ECA stack, vanadyl on my high carb days (taken before my cell Pro), and amino acids.

Furthermore I announced I did get very sick for a several days which I'm quite positive I did become dehydrated at one point due to the constant vomiting. What made it worst was that I got sick on a Friday, the day before my carb up, where I already felt bad and was intensified by this virus I caught.

Anyways as for the blood panel. My ALT/SGPT (alanine aminotransferase) liver enzyme was slightly elevated. Mine was 46 U/L where the normal range is 0-41. I dont think this is attributed to the Furazadrol. With such a minimal increase it was possibly due to being sick. For example, Celiac sprue is a small intestinal illness where a patient has an allergy to gluten and develops gas, bloating, diarrhea, and in advanced cases malnutrition. Patients with celiac sprue can also develop mildly abnormal ALT and AST levels. Its a very good chance that the Gastroenteritis (stomach virus) had influenced this result to the malnutrion, upset stomach, and dehydration I experienced.

Suprisingly my good lipids "HDL" was kind of low. The normal range is between 40-60 mg/dl in which mine were 34 (below optimal). Again not bad but would of liked to see it higher. Now my bad lipids "LDL" were 68mg/dl out of a highest of 129, which isnt bad either, but higher than I anticipated.

Hypothetically speaking maybe my good lipids were affected by the ckd somehow. Or on an interesting note, William Llewellyn once stated that the supplement Furaguno is less potent due to the lack of c-17 methylation but at the same time would have a noticable effect on HDL cholesterol levels (supressing)which may be accompanied by a stable or elevated (LDL) cholesterol. Perhaps Furazadrol acts the same way, however I do not know just a hypothesis. Furthermore my total cholesterol was very good. It was a total of 113 mg/dl. The only other thing that was elevated was my creatinine by a tenth. It was a 1.3 where the highest optimal range is 1.2 mg/dl. A further note, both dehydration and muscle damage also can raise creatinine levels. As for my tryglycerides, mine was 56 based on a range from 0-150 mg/dl.

I had this blood test performed about 4 days after I recovered from being Ill. So it is safe to assume that everything that was slightly elevated was probably due to being sick. I hope this helps and is informative. I only listed what was elevated. Everything else came back normal. Thanks everyone for giving me this oppurtunity. Remember I took Furazadrol for six weeks, so not bad. Like always I look forward to any remarks or comments. Stay strong.

[LivenLarge]

Thanks for the blood test results.

Can't wait for Dinoiii to get his hands on those numbers. I am sure he will have plent to say about them.

[DriverDan]

Suprisingly my good lipids "HDL" was kind of low. The normal range is between 40-60 mg/dl in which mine were 34 (below optimal). Again not bad but would of liked to see it higher. Now my bad lipids "LDL" were 68mg/dl out of a highest of 129, which isnt bad either, but higher than I anticipated.
Your LDL is low. Your overall cholesterol is 102 which is very low. At that level you really don't need to worry about your HDL being 34.