Low Testosterone

[TheCoZ]

I took about 5 prohormones in a year and a half and have been off since April. I took a Testosterone test about 9 weeks ago and it was low. I took it again a couple weeks ago and it was still low. My doctor says it should be fine by December. Has this happened to anyone else and if so what did u take or get prescribed to get it back to normal?
I'm only 23 and i'm never taking prohormones again just b/c it doesn't react well with me

[VaughnTrue]

I took about 5 prohormones in a year and a half and have been off since April. I took a Testosterone test about 9 weeks ago and it was low. I took it again a couple weeks ago and it was still low. My doctor says it should be fine by December. Has this happened to anyone else and if so what did u take or get prescribed to get it back to normal?
I'm only 23 and i'm never taking prohormones again just b/c it doesn't react well with me

5 cycles in 1 year? no wonder you have low test

[thabenjaminz05]

How did you even manage to fit 5 cycles into that time period, and I'm sure that's why you think "they don't react well with you." You could not have had proper PCT and time off. Anyway, as for low test, I guess you could try hypertest or blue up, not sure how much they'll help out.

[usf97j4x4]

5 cycles in 1 year? no wonder you have low test

WORD. You need some time off the ph's bud

[Voodoo]

hey don't get down on him, sh*t happens.

effectively you just didn't wait long enough between cycles, but thats fine, there are easy ways to come back semi naturally.

test boosters: test drive from est and hypertest from axis labs are my personal favorites.

run em for 2 months, work out full body, especially your legs as they are the biggest muscles in your body, it'll spur more test production.

after a couple months I'm sure you'll be back up to your normal, just out of curiosity, what race are you / what did your test numbers come in at? both free and bioavailable.

[usf97j4x4]

I think everyone is here to learn. Although it seems like people are being criticial it is still helpful for the OP to hear it.

Like we've all stated in one way or another :D he likely ran too many cycles in too short of a time. His natural test levels probably never got a chance to fully bounce back before they were suppressed by his next cycle.

To the OP: Follow Voo's advice as it is good. Natural test boosters may really help you out. Also look into Blue Up (stim or stim-fee) as I like that one and the price is great.

You do not necessarily need to stop taking PH's all together but simply give your body a long break. I try to only run 3 cycles or so a year max. The more you run the less beneficial they will be.

[TheCoZ]

I don't remember the results exactly because I gave them to my doctor. But I do remember that everything was normal except one of them. I was at 263 the first test then 5 weeks later i was at 265 (percentage-wise they're the same). You are considered to have a normal level if ur between 400-1100. As u can see i am about 135 points down. I orignally went to my doctor cause I had a lump in each nipple (gyno). But that swelling is starting to go down.
Here is how the progression of my cycles went:
October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol
The last cycle was the only one i used PCT's. I used Hypertest, tamiforen, Inhibit-e, and ReduceXT. I also used Milk thistle for the last few cycles.
I never knew about PCT's cause the first place I bough Superdrol from the guy told me i didn't need to take anything. What an ass he was. I learned through here what to take by the last cycle.
I hope my testosterone isn't f'ed for good. And I assume I shouldn't expect to see any gains in the gym til my levels are normal, right? Cause I haven't seen any gains since my last cycle.
Appreciate all the repsonses guys.

[TheCoZ]

Oh yea, i'm a white male/23 years old

[VaughnTrue]

I don't remember the results exactly because I gave them to my doctor. But I do remember that everything was normal except one of them. I was at 263 the first test then 5 weeks later i was at 265 (percentage-wise they're the same). You are considered to have a normal level if ur between 400-1100. As u can see i am about 135 points down. I orignally went to my doctor cause I had a lump in each nipple (gyno). But that swelling is starting to go down.
Here is how the progression of my cycles went:
October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol
The last cycle was the only one i used PCT's. I used Hypertest, tamiforen, Inhibit-e, and ReduceXT. I also used Milk thistle for the last few cycles.
I never knew about PCT's cause the first place I bough Superdrol from the guy told me i didn't need to take anything. What an ass he was. I learned through here what to take by the last cycle.
I hope my testosterone isn't f'ed for good. And I assume I shouldn't expect to see any gains in the gym til my levels are normal, right? Cause I haven't seen any gains since my last cycle.
Appreciate all the repsonses guys.


oyyyy the whole no PCT changes things.



If I was you, I'd either see an endocrinologist for a script, or I would run another 100% thorough pct with nolva/ai and get yourself right again.


best of luck to you bro

[TheCoZ]

yea im just tryin to get myself back to normal and it sucks. My doc keeps tellin me i'll be fine in december but i keep tellin him i don't think i will. I guess Im going to have to wait and find out. What do they use to treat it if it doesn't go back up?

[usf97j4x4]

OMG

October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol

All this in 1 year with only PCT on the last M-Drol cycle? Yeesh. You are lucky your wearing heels. They would react better with you if you ran PCT. At least you are doing the right thing now though. GL

Try some more inhibit E and some natty test booster

[DriverDan]

Here is how the progression of my cycles went:
October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol
Last time I checked 17 months was more than a year :o

The lack of PCT is probably the root of the problem. The body is an amazing machine, I wouldn't be surprised if you're back to normal by December. Good luck!

[bbuilder]

He did space them out nicely. :)

October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol

[Voodoo]

I don't remember the results exactly because I gave them to my doctor. But I do remember that everything was normal except one of them. I was at 263 the first test then 5 weeks later i was at 265 (percentage-wise they're the same). You are considered to have a normal level if ur between 400-1100. As u can see i am about 135 points down. I orignally went to my doctor cause I had a lump in each nipple (gyno). But that swelling is starting to go down.
Here is how the progression of my cycles went:
October 2005: Superdrol
February 2006: Promagnon
November 2006: Methyldrol
January 2007: Oxydrol
March 2007: M-Drol
The last cycle was the only one i used PCT's. I used Hypertest, tamiforen, Inhibit-e, and ReduceXT. I also used Milk thistle for the last few cycles.
I never knew about PCT's cause the first place I bough Superdrol from the guy told me i didn't need to take anything. What an ass he was. I learned through here what to take by the last cycle.
I hope my testosterone isn't f'ed for good. And I assume I shouldn't expect to see any gains in the gym til my levels are normal, right? Cause I haven't seen any gains since my last cycle.
Appreciate all the repsonses guys.

What youre talking about is free test. and yes, those numbers are low, youre still decently shut down. Youre white, thus at a genetic disadvantage in this comparison test, 400-1000 is the normal range for all races, with asian being 375-500, white being somewhere around 440-600, hispanic 500-700 and black at 600-900. I personally naturally sit at about 490-510 which is average for a token white guy.

Test boosters and a little time off will bring everything back. I know this because at one time I was 234 out of 400-1000. ;)

Your gains will be minimal with low test, but this by no means is me saying give up. The human body produces more test if your working your muscles and thus... go to the gym.

[TheCoZ]

yea I really want to go out and buy a test booster but I figure if my tests are still low in a month and a half the doc will hopefully prescribe me somethin that will be a lot cheaper to buy through insurance (and probably better results).
Voodoo when ur test was at 230 were u often tired and irritable, cause thats how i've felt the last 4 months.
Well I hope everyone can learn from my mistake, especially me, cause throughout and entire year and a half of incorrect prohormone use, i've walked away with low testesterone and minimal gains. It was like a rollercoaster of gains and losses.

[J Rad]

Im sure your test will be back to normal soon seeing as you have a phil quote in your sig. But on a more serious note, I guess the natty boosters would be a good route, maybe even try a light/effective product such as Restore. I agree on the Legs though, ive read that working out the legs boosts test anyways. I mean i know its redundant now, but you always want to do thorough research before you put anything in your body, spread the word.

Good luck Bro, dont get discouraged.

[Voodoo]

yea I really want to go out and buy a test booster but I figure if my tests are still low in a month and a half the doc will hopefully prescribe me somethin that will be a lot cheaper to buy through insurance (and probably better results).
Voodoo when ur test was at 230 were u often tired and irritable, cause thats how i've felt the last 4 months.
Well I hope everyone can learn from my mistake, especially me, cause throughout and entire year and a half of incorrect prohormone use, i've walked away with low testesterone and minimal gains. It was like a rollercoaster of gains and losses.

These are the words of someone whos going to quit.. I started at 172, I hit a high of 246, now after "cutting" from bronchitis for 6 weeks, Im 226 VERY COMPETITION LEAN. I expect on my next stack (the est giveaway) Ill be right about 245 again, muscle memory is fun stuff.

Take some test boosters, fix the problem, get back on the bandwagon and beat yourself up.

[joslte]

I dont mean to hijack the thread but since its on subject I think... could low test levels be responsible for mr winky not wanting to respond when its time to respond if you know what i mean? Im sort of just throwing it out there but yea, I even took an aspire today and NOTHING. or is it most likely stress or something else altogether?

[Voodoo]

I dont mean to hijack the thread but since its on subject I think... could low test levels be responsible for mr winky not wanting to respond when its time to respond if you know what i mean? Im sort of just throwing it out there but yea, I even took an aspire today and NOTHING. or is it most likely stress or something else altogether?

stress, lack of attention, low test levels, diet, sleep patterns, copious alcohol consumption, drug use, etc.

Effectively, its most likely stress, however your sex drive diminishes when you're not producing test because well, you're not producing your characteristic SEX HORMONE. ;)

[joslte]

stress, lack of attention, low test levels, diet, sleep patterns, copious alcohol consumption, drug use, etc.

Effectively, its most likely stress, however your sex drive diminishes when you're not producing test because well, you're not producing your characteristic SEX HORMONE. ;)


I feel alot better already just being aware of this now. I easily have all the highlighted things going on. Time to change the things I can like, diet, sleeping and cutting out the alchohol and im sure the rest will fall into place. thanks Voodoo.

[CompEdgeLabs]

The root of the problem seems too many cycles, not enough time off, and not doing PCT.

If problem persists and you dont get what you are looking for from the doc, which btw getting test patch or injections isnt going to raise your natural levels back, I would personally do a low dose ATD cycle with a good trib and maybe Activate Xtreme.

[TheCoZ]

need some input on what Test booster to get. I'm lookin for cheap and effective. Anyone ever take Jungle Warfare before? It's only 32 dollars.
Appreciate any input.

[DriverDan]

need some input on what Test booster to get. I'm lookin for cheap and effective. Anyone ever take Jungle Warfare before? It's only 32 dollars.
Appreciate any input.
Don't take JW if you have low test. Multiple people have shown decrease total test after taking it.

[Voodoo]

hypertest or test drive

[RisingAgainst]

The most effective option for you (considering it's your free test that's causing the problem here) is ActivaTe extreme stacked with something like Inhibit-e and maybe Blue up if you have the cash.. this would bring your test SOARING high, and probably make your doctor look into something similar once test results come back! LOL

[VaughnTrue]

I agree RA.


some guy over on BB had his test jump like CRAZY using Activate Xtreme...let me see if I can find the link/info

[TheCoZ]

thanks guys, i wish i would have read the last 2 posts before i bought my product, but i went with hypertest. Hopefully it does the job. And voodoo no worries im too addicted to working out to ever quit! I'm just going to be salty about the whole situatioin until i see results from my usual 4 days of pain a week routine.

[RisingAgainst]

thanks guys, i wish i would have read the last 2 posts before i bought my product, but i went with hypertest. Hopefully it does the job. And voodoo no worries im too addicted to working out to ever quit! I'm just going to be salty about the whole situatioin until i see results from my usual 4 days of pain a week routine.
ouch.. if I were you.. I'd buy an anti-e (inhibit-e is 20 bucks) and some acitvate extreme... hypertest alone will only boost your libido, not your true test levels.. and you need increased FREE test not base test.

[CompEdgeLabs]

The most effective option for you (considering it's your free test that's causing the problem here) is ActivaTe extreme stacked with something like Inhibit-e and maybe Blue up if you have the cash.. this would bring your test SOARING high, and probably make your doctor look into something similar once test results come back! LOL

Activate Extreme + Inhibit-E should work excellent. (See, we agree every once in awhile :) )

[joslte]

ouch.. if I were you.. I'd buy an anti-e (inhibit-e is 20 bucks) and some acitvate extreme... hypertest alone will only boost your libido, not your true test levels.. and you need increased FREE test not base test.

The light bulb just turned on in my head, so base test = libido and free test = muscle building? or is it that hypertest will literally only boost your libido and has nothing to do with test at all?

[CompEdgeLabs]

The light bulb just turned on in my head, so base test = libido and free test = muscle building? or is it that hypertest will literally only boost your libido and has nothing to do with test at all?

Things that boost your test do not necessarily boost your libido. ATD (Inhibit-E) boosts test but can rasie some peoples libido, lower some peoples libido, or not affect libido at all.

Total test, free test both help build muscle if the test elevation is kept for a longer period of time.

Hypertest is good for libido purposes, and is considered a natty test booster; there are theories on how some of the ingredients can boost test, but none are really proven. If it does so, it is most likely through the LH pathway due to Trib content.

[RisingAgainst]

The light bulb just turned on in my head, so base test = libido and free test = muscle building? or is it that hypertest will literally only boost your libido and has nothing to do with test at all?

Things that boost your test do not necessarily boost your libido. ATD (Inhibit-E) boosts test but can rasie some peoples libido, lower some peoples libido, or not affect libido at all.

Total test, free test both help build muscle if the test elevation is kept for a longer period of time.

Hypertest is good for libido purposes, and is considered a natty test booster; there are theories on how some of the ingredients can boost test, but none are really proven. If it does so, it is most likely through the LH pathway due to Trib content.

(See, we agree every once in awhile :) )
You're right.. you answered exactly how I would have

[TheCoZ]

so ur saying that if i take it that it's pretty much not going to do anything? **** 'n A man

[RisingAgainst]

so ur saying that if i take it that it's pretty much not going to do anything? **** 'n A man
It will raise LH levels and give you a hard on.. ;)

[TheCoZ]

alright well i guess i know what im doin for the next 30 days, haha. But seriously, Im not made of money but i could afford inhibit-e, is it worth the grab if i combo it with Hypertest?

[RisingAgainst]

alright well i guess i know what im doin for the next 30 days, haha. But seriously, Im not made of money but i could afford inhibit-e, is it worth the grab if i combo it with Hypertest?
definitely.. thats a good combo actually.. Inhibit messes with my libido a bit.. hypertest will counter that.

[CompEdgeLabs]

alright well i guess i know what im doin for the next 30 days, haha. But seriously, Im not made of money but i could afford inhibit-e, is it worth the grab if i combo it with Hypertest?

definitely.. thats a good combo actually.. Inhibit messes with my libido a bit.. hypertest will counter that.

To present another side, ATD (Inhibit-E) only messes with my libido if I run higher than 50 mg for more than one week. Irregardless, the stack of ATD with Hypertest would be a good one because ATD helps inhibit estrogen and increase natural testosterone levels and if Hypertest truly works through the LH pathway which I suspect it does, that would make them a good combo.