Nat test cycle between PH cycles...good or bad?

[LexusKid]

Team DA... I'm in my pct now after a cycle of Halo-T 400. After my pct I was planning a non-PH cycle to keep gaining...that is filling in my rest cycle before starting next PH.

Question...if I want to run natural test boost, should I wait longer to run my next PH?....sort of a rest or reset time after the nat.

Question...would ActivaTe Xtreme stacked with X-Factor be ok during my rest time between PH cycles?

Thanks!

[jw25558]

From my experience, running a natural cycle between ph cycles is a good idea. My last cycle was Mayhem and Bold and shortly after, I started a cycle of IGF-2, Neovar, and RPM and have had great results. Both of my logs are in my sig if you want to check them out.

[LexusKid]

JW, what PH did you run after the IGF-2? Did you wait after finishing the natural cycle before starting PH again.

I was thinking of running M14ADD and BOLD on my next cycle. Can I run this after finishing ActivaTe Xtreme/X-Factor stack? Should I have any rest time after AX/X-F cycle?

[MUbodbuilder]

well the purpose of PCT is to get naty test back up. so doing any more supps for naty test right after PCT would be pointless, youd proly wear yourself out/not feel much effects. if you did to this id make sure and put several weeks between it all and use different products from PCT to your naty cycle.

[LexusKid]

youd proly wear yourself out/not feel much effects.
I've been wondering the same. Not sure how much the body can take.

if you did to this id make sure and put several weeks between it all and use different products from PCT to your naty cycle.
The whole purpose of this thread is to get a better understanding of exactly that.

[jw25558]

JW, what PH did you run after the IGF-2? Did you wait after finishing the natural cycle before starting PH again.

I was thinking of running M14ADD and BOLD on my next cycle. Can I run this after finishing ActivaTe Xtreme/X-Factor stack? Should I have any rest time after AX/X-F cycle?

I don't know much about X-Factor so I can't comment there. It actually wasn't planned for me to do this but it has worked out very well.

To start with, I had a sponsored log which consisted of BCS Labs Mayhem (M14ADD), Iforce Bold, and PAL Reset AD. Here is the log.

http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=114454#post114454

During pct, I signed up to test Neovar, IGF-2, and RPM. The way it worked out, I finished the cycle and AN products showed up the next day so I went ahead and started and have had great results. Here is the link to that one.

http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11520

Keep in mind that IGF-2, Neovar, and Rpm are all natural products. I speculate that I would have been better off waiting a little while before starting but I didnt want to hold up the sponsored log. The true benefit of this and it was by total accident, IGF-2 increases levels of dopamine, which will decrease prolactin. Where I had put on some water with the m14add, the igf-2 has really leaned me out.

Though some say you can start a ph cycle right after a natural cycle, I personally like to wait about 4 weeks to allow the body to normalize. There are a lot of opinions on this subject so be sure to go with your own good judgment;)

[jw25558]

Hopefully dinoiii , solomon1979 , voodoo , CompEdgeLabs and some of the other guys see this thread. They all are very knowledgeable.

[usf97j4x4]

I ran blue up as part of PCT for my Bold cycle, I am going to continue the blue up well out of PCT. I am feeling great and still gaining

[LexusKid]

I ran blue up as part of PCT for my Bold cycle, I am going to continue the blue up well out of PCT. I am feeling great and still gaining

I too am running BlueUp in my pct now. I do double dose at 5on/2off protocol...I happen to workout on the same protocol, so my 2 off days I don't take any BlueUp. Gains are still coming, feeling great.

I considered staying with BlueUp beyound the pct too. For less $$ it's a good alternative to say MassFx.

I've got the $$, just want to get the cycle timing down when going PH-Natty-PH. Gotta feel there should be ample rest / reset time in between, but how much time?

What I may do is just go completely natural following pct...diet only after pct. Only supps will be vitamins & protein. Maybe some creatine. When I hit a plateau then I can start the natural test cycle of ActivaTe Xtreme/X-Factor stack. This seems logical, since my body will be telling me that I need help up to the next level...power up.

[dinoiii]

Question...if I want to run natural test boost, should I wait longer to run my next PH?....sort of a rest or reset time after the nat.

This depends on the natural test booster as well as length of cycle. How long was your most recent cycle and of what?

I presume as with 99% of people you do NOT have lab work to see what level of suppression may have occured (not chastizing, just asking)?

If we are talking Blue-UP, I would minimally recommend the stimulant free variety as stimulants have no place in PCT (IMO and well supported mind you, they have VERY LIMITED position in the body-composition athlete's plight anyway to be honest).




Question...would ActivaTe Xtreme stacked with X-Factor be ok during my rest time between PH cycles?

The two can cancel out certain effects if we have understood the mechanisms of action correctly, namely the Divanil + XF. What I ask you to do is search for Mass Fx and X-Factor threads and find posts I have written on the subject. Also look into my Kiss My HyperMass log at my Independent Supplement Review I on Divanil for comment about the interactions existent.


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[B-natural]

I wonder why D didn't comment on the 5on/2off protocol that was involved, why are you running 5on/2off with a product that is supposed to boost natty test (LH) I think your just going for a rollercoaster ride with that protocol

[dinoiii]

I wonder why D didn't comment on the 5on/2off protocol that was involved, why are you running 5on/2off with a product that is supposed to boost natty test (LH) I think your just going for a rollercoaster ride with that protocol

One of two possibilities that "D" character didn't comment on the 5 on/ 2 off protocol.

First and foremost...this is my first and foremost suggestion for a stimulant procuct or you will ultimately sacrifice efficacy though I am unsure if he was talking the stimulant variety or not...

It wouldn't matter as products that contain Eurycoma (long jack) such as Blue Up - should be employed in a similar fashion as I have discussed on this forum in the past.


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[LexusKid]

One of two possibilities that "D" character didn't comment on the 5 on/ 2 off protocol.

It wouldn't matter as products that contain Eurycoma (long jack) such as Blue Up - should be employed in a similar fashion as I have discussed on this forum in the past.

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I did pick the BlueUp 5 on/ 2 off protocol in another thread from a member with many posts that seems reliable. ;) That's why I'm giving it a try. I feel great so far at 2 weeks into my pct. Gains are still coming...so sides.