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UNCfan1
July 10th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Ok whats the difference?

Also why is certain methyl's harmless and some aren't?

Example: SD=Bad Caffiene=OK

Is the methyl in Pro-Anabol ok on the liver?
RisingAgainst
July 10th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Ok whats the difference?

Also why is certain methyl's harmless and some aren't?

Example: SD=Bad Caffiene=OK

Is the methyl in Pro-Anabol ok on the liver?
Yes the methyl in pro-anabol is fine... the methylation of a product using androgen receptors on the 17th carbon position is what is liver toxic bro. LIVER TOXIC vs LIVER UNFRIENDLY are very different btw... nothing is really GREAT for your liver unless it's meant to be ;)
UNCfan1
July 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Yes the methyl in pro-anabol is fine... the methylation of a product using androgen receptors on the 17th carbon position is what is liver toxic bro. LIVER TOXIC vs LIVER UNFRIENDLY are very different btw... nothing is really GREAT for your liver unless it's meant to be ;)

U like how I started a thread after reading what u typed lol.

Thanks
RisingAgainst
July 10th, 2007, 10:15 PM
U like how I started a thread after reading what u typed lol.

Thanks
Ya lol, I'm replying all over the place.. way to boost my already ridiculous post count... Wedgy, I'm gonna pass you.. AGAIN! lol
abc1985
July 11th, 2007, 02:11 AM
i was reading the label on my skin cream and it is methylated :D....although i am sure it is ok for my liver
dinoiii
July 11th, 2007, 08:03 PM
"Methyls" are basically a carbon with three hydrogen attachments. That said, the functionality is dictated by where those methyls sit in a complete molecular structure.

If in the 17a-carbon position (where hepatic metabolism imparts its effects), and this is being essentially blocked chemically by a chemical strain of a bulk molecule, etc...then the molecule with potential acitves has the chance to go by this route and act for a much longer time without being broken down. I have discussed this in the Open Articles section in depth in one of my Short Topic Series articles for those that care to get into in any depth.

The tri-methyls in caffeine are NOT the liver metabolism active sites. Its really as simple as that.


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dinoiii
July 13th, 2007, 01:07 PM
I believe I've read some of this before, and I just finished reading the threads from RA and UNC :D

What threads...outside of my subforum on another board, I have been pretty lax this month in finding time to get to the boards. Can you link them up B-nat?


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