Axis Labs Phire! and Cut

[FutureKill]

Right now I am on 8 weeks of Bold with mxt/m1,4add bridged (and eating like a mad man as of this morning). Needless to say I am on a bulk. My diet isn't horrible but it could be a lot better, I am not real concerned about gaining fat though. I figure that after pct I will go on a cut, which leads to my question...

I have heard a lot about Axis Labs Adipo-X being a really good fat burner. But, I have not heard anything about Phire!, by the same company. Obviously it is a fat burner as well, but it looks to me (given the ingredient profile) like it might be a better product. Of course I know next to nothing about fat burners.

While I am at it, I suppose I'll ask about my cut in general. I was thinking I would use a fat burner; whether Adipo-X, Phire or perhaps Leviathan in addition to a sesamin product(probably sesamax) and a thyroid supp(probably thyrocuts II). What do you think?

[Clickster]

Right now I am on 8 weeks of Bold with mxt/m1,4add bridged (and eating like a mad man as of this morning). Needless to say I am on a bulk. My diet isn't horrible but it could be a lot better, I am not real concerned about gaining fat though. I figure that after pct I will go on a cut, which leads to my question...

I have heard a lot about Axis Labs Adipo-X being a really good fat burner. But, I have not heard anything about Phire!, by the same company. Obviously it is a fat burner as well, but it looks to me (given the ingredient profile) like it might be a better product. Of course I know next to nothing about fat burners.

While I am at it, I suppose I'll ask about my cut in general. I was thinking I would use a fat burner; whether Adipo-X, Phire or perhaps Leviathan in addition to a sesamin product(probably sesamax) and a thyroid supp(probably thyrocuts II). What do you think?

Axis Labs Phire! is being discontinued. I STRONGLY reccomend Axis Labs Adipo-X. BY FAR the best fat burner I have ever used. I think you will love it.

Axis Labs Adipo-X + Axis Labs SesaMAX rocks!

[FutureKill]

Ok great, thanks. What about stacking Adipo-x, Sesamax and Thyrocuts II or any other thyroid supp? Or, how about Leviathan? Is it safe to stack it with adipo-x?

[B-natural]

leviathan with adipox might be overkill on stims. a thyroid booster may be good if you feel your metabolism isn't up to par, but you gotta be careful with thyroid boosters.

[FutureKill]

First of all, thanks for the response:D.

Between leviathan and adipox, which one would be best for a cut? Not just losing body fat but also maintaining muscle mass. When you say be careful with thyroid boosters, could you elaborate on that a little? Like, why and how? Also, what do you think of Leviathan/Adipo-x, Sesamax and Retain2; along with thyroid supp if I decide to use one?

[MUbodbuilder]

its very easy to "over load" your thyroid with too many supps. your body notices the higher out put caused by the supps so it shuts it down so to speak. then when your done with the supp you have the let down and its hard for some to come back from that.

i think the adipox + sesamax would be a good stack. how long do you think you would run them?

[wedgylx]

I'm running LEviathan + Incarnate + reset AD from PAL and LOVING IT. You can check out the link in my signiture.

Adipo-X also looks like an excellent product, and Axis always puts out a solid line!

I'd choose between AdipoX and LEviathan and definitely stack it with a sesamin product. Sesamax looks good, Sesathin by Avant labs has a higher dosage of sesamin than most products though (but you do get what you pay for, as it is accompanied by a higher price tag).

I wouldn't even bother with a thyroid supp. If you don't lose weight on this combo, its an issue with your diet and how serious you're taking it.

I'd recommend ResetAD with either stack as well. Its only like $15, and I really feel it helps with sleep and crash issues

[B-natural]

I'll be puttin most of the PAL stack to the test soon, that way I can vouche for it. Wedg seems to have lost a decent amount of wt with this, so I'd agree with his stack.
so....
Incarnate+Leviathan+Reset A.D.
-or-
MAN Scorch+Vaporize+Retain2
-or-
Axis Adipo-x+Sesamax+Retain2