View Full Version : Methyls: Anti Estrogen Needed?
The New Breed
December 23rd, 2004, 09:35 PM
I know that the definition of most of the methyl products are that they are 'methylized versions of popular prohormones that, because of their methylized nature, do not require conversion in the liver' and that they have 100% bioavailability. I also know that not all claims are entirely true. I was wondering if anyone who has used methyl products has had problems with estrogen conversion and the usual side effects such as liver toxicity, etc. I was planning on starting a cycle and considering skipping anti-estrogens, but I don't wanna take any chances with estrogen. Any help is appreciated.
italndiesel
December 24th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Never skip on the PCT (post cycle therapy). Estrogen can sneak up on you and blow you away with how bad it makes you look in such a fast period of time. I made that mistake on y second cycle and actually needed my doctor to help me out because I look like bloated fish.
skip
December 24th, 2004, 08:27 AM
what do you recommend for pct? is this only needed if you are going to exceed the time recommended and amount?
SNS8778
December 26th, 2004, 06:25 PM
PCT Therapy is a good idea for any ph cycle, even if you are taking products by the recommended dosages. The most popular PCT product on the market is 6OXO; I also like Aromadex by VPX and Estrodex by SAN.
italndiesel
December 27th, 2004, 10:40 AM
i agree 100% with steve...you need pct regardless...clear the estrogen away (if any) and generate your test levels back to normal...even a short cycle has a negative effect, if only slight...i like aromadex and 6OXO as well, am in fact doing them together now as my offcycle with E2 Matrix
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